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re: How Will Bama's Lack of Respect for LSU Affect the Way the Tide Plays?

Posted on 1/5/12 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 2:58 pm to
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I am asking about Bama's psychological approach to this game. Will it work or will it backfire?




also you mention this - your trying to justify an entire football program based on the comments of A) kids who play and like to boast - and in this way are showing confidence for the upcoming game, and B) from people on message boards that have no bearing on the school, team or players aside from imparting their opinions.



I am asking the question because of what I keep seeing Bama players saying. I am assuming that it is intentional and is coming from Saban. I am not saying that it is wrong. It might be genius. It might be exactly what they need to be thinking to beat the crap out of LSU.

Saban is great at this stuff. But, I am asking the SEC Rant if they think it will work or if they think it misses the mark?



What exactly are we supposed to talk about here? The SEC Rant has turned into a bunch of Bama and LSU fans patting each other on the back because they are so far above the "flaming" while in reality, they are just flaming anyone who even raises a question or a thougth about the game that they don't approve of ahead of time.


It is altogether possible that I am not doing what you all think I am doing but you are too blind to see it because all you see are flame attempts. Saban has a plan. This looks like it is part of it. It might be genius and work perfectly. What does the SEC Rant think?


Personally, I could care less what Alabama players say, think, or do. I am seeing a strategy here and am wondering if ya'll think it is a good one or not.
Posted by elposter
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:02 pm to
AlaTiger, I think you might be reading too much into some selected soundbites. I don't think there is some designed, intentional script or mantra that Alabama's players or coaches are trying to convey. I think it "is what it is" - Alabama players think LSU is very good, but Alabama players think if they play their best game Alabama will beat LSU. I think you might be making more out of it than is really there.
This post was edited on 1/5/12 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:02 pm to
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Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:04 pm to
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No, it isn't. Either you haven't been listening very much or (more likely) you haven't been listening very well. Bama players and coaches have been very forthcoming about their respect for LSU and that team's accomplishments. So, no, it isn't ALL you've heard out of the Bama camp. It's barely ANY of what you've heard out of the Bama camp. It's just all you want to think about because you have some sort of need for validation. So, when anything is said that doesn't meet this need, you focus like a laser on it. You're needy, and neediness leads to butthurt and butthurt leads to posts like this.


When Blackwell made his statement it made the news. I thought it was stupid. He should have kept his mouth shut. This is the big time. Everything you say will be repeated and blown out of proportion. Saban knows what he is doing and he has trained his players well. I am actually giving Bama players a complement.

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On the other hand, you're not only a poor listener, but you're also an idiot. Bama players can only control how well they attempt to execute. They can't make LSU a better or worse team except by the way that Bama plays. So, why in the world wouldn't they think that they should/could play better? What would you have them say? "Well, we'll just have to hope that LSU plays worse this time because we played utterly flawlessly the last game." That would be both stupid and incorrect.


Can you miss my point any more than you are? Wow.



Saban has sent a message to his team. "LSU didn't beat you. You beat yourself. You didn't execute the plan. Focus on the process, get it fixed, and you will win the game."

The Alabama players are speaking that message out publicly. I am NOT SAYING THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT!!!!! It might just be the right approach. I am asking the question because it is not one that is very common. I am an NFL fan and teams play one another in the division twice a year. There is a party line that you speak so that you don't give the other team bulletin board material. Saban was an NFL coach. He understands this. So, to deviate from it, it must be intentional. Is that a good plan in this case or not?



Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:06 pm to
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I am assuming


found your problem right here......stop doign this, and it should clear up for you in a few days.

I think your LSU fandom is making you see things that arent there. these are kids. they will say what they feel and are confident about it - doesn't make it some"black ops, down and dirty ploy by the coach".

you also say you could care less - but you keep getting iritated with the bama fans for "not answering your question" if you honestly did not care, why ask it in the 1st place.

and no - its not expected for you guys to be buddy buddy at all - but your seems to be 1 in about 50000 lame flame attempts that have been made int he last few weeks - and both sides are guilty of it.
Posted by arlo
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:06 pm to
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ut, I am asking the SEC Rant if they think it will work or if they think it misses the mark?



Not to hijack, but is the cell phone brigade still on alert, or are they in full swing now? Do they think it will work, or does that miss the mark?
This post was edited on 1/5/12 at 3:09 pm
Posted by RonSwanson
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:14 pm to
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You guys sure are a sensitive bunch of wussies.


Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:16 pm to
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found your problem right here......stop doign this, and it should clear up for you in a few days.

I think your LSU fandom is making you see things that arent there. these are kids. they will say what they feel and are confident about it - doesn't make it some"black ops, down and dirty ploy by the coach".

you also say you could care less - but you keep getting iritated with the bama fans for "not answering your question" if you honestly did not care, why ask it in the 1st place.

and no - its not expected for you guys to be buddy buddy at all - but your seems to be 1 in about 50000 lame flame attempts that have been made int he last few weeks - and both sides are guilty of it.



Could you please give me a preapproved list of the things that we can talk about in relation to this game? Because it seems that most topics that are brought up have BHP hating himself or about 20 posters from both sides of this game jumping up and down hysterically yelling "flame, flame!" without even taking the time to think about if the OP is actually trying to do that or not.


Its a freaking message board. We're all "assuming" things. Why don't you stop being the police and actually consider that someone might have a different perspective. If you disagree, then fine. Disagree. That's why I'm asking what people think. I don't know if I'm right. It was a thought.

I am not irritated with Bama fans not answering my question. I keep asking it so that we can get back to the point. If I were flaming, I wouldn't make the effort to ask the question again.

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but your seems to be 1 in about 50000 lame flame attempts


Sounds like you are assuming, doesn't it?

I can't help what everyone else is doing on this board. It was my question.

As for Saban, I absolutely believe that he is doing all he can to get his team mentally prepared for this game. I think that what the Bama players are saying could be part of it. I am not complaining about it or saying that it is wrong or out of bounds. It might just be genius. Or, it might not work. We'll know on January 9th.
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:17 pm to
Seriously. Is there anything that BHP and Crimsonsaint and Funky Tide 8 and whoever else has a coronary every time someone on the SEC Rant mentions the game coming up can agree on that we can actually talk about? Can you publish a list of approved topics.

If everything is considered a flame, then what exactly is this board for? It looks to me like the whole bunch of you are just trolling all over this board to call everyone out who even dares question anything. I thought it was a good question that was actually respectful of how Saban mentally prepares his team.

Why is everyone so sensitive?

Are we on Tidefans?
This post was edited on 1/5/12 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Dribble
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:21 pm to
tl;dr
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:24 pm to
all im saying is - you say you do not care, but you obviously do and keep asking it.

i honestly have no use for Saban at all - I give him props for what he has done, but aside from that I have no use for him.

with kids posting boasts that exemplify theith confidence going into the most hyped, probly the biggest game of the colegiant career is just that - a kids words. just cause it is from the other side doesn;t mean its a conspiracy.

if I were in Saban's shoes - I wopuld tell them the same thing - Bama absolutely beat themselve in that game - that many missed oportunities is at squarely on the players. just cause he doesn't acknowlege the other side when addressing his players isn't a lack of respect - its a coaching tool to get your team refocused and fired up for the game.

as was stated by other bama fans - the players have given props to LSU on numerous occasions - but all the LSU fans seem to want to do is harm on how "Bama doesn;t respect LSU" - i will tell you - Bama respects LSU a whole hell of a lot more then they do for other teams in the SEC.

as for the list of things to discuss - lighten up francis.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:26 pm to
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It looks to me like the whole bunch of you are just trolling all over this board to call everyone out who even dares question anything.


ding ding ding
Posted by delrod03
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:27 pm to
AlaTiger, the approach that Saban has is that if we lose, we didn't execute. I think what we're referring to is that we didn't play a mistake free game. If neither side makes a mistake, and you guys still win, there's nothing else to do but tip our hats. That wasn't the case with the first game. Our mistakes cost us dearly. If we hang on to one pass, or if we don't block in the back on a big return...stuff like that. It's not anything against LSU. It's just the mentality that if we play a perfect game, we win. If we make no mistakes in this game, and y'all still win, there's not alot we can say.
Posted by bona fide
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:29 pm to
You were trolling, if you wanted serious discussion this would not have been your first sentence.
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All we've heard out of the Bama camp is,

"They didn't beat us. We beat ourselves."


Bama fans and everyone else with a brain knows Bama player and coaches have spoken highly of the LSU program. If you want a pat on the back and support of your statements in your OP, post it on the rant. Many there will agree with you and ignore the positive statements made by Bama.
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:29 pm to
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Seriously. Is there anything that BHP and Crimsonsaint and Funky Tide 8 and whoever else has a coronary every time someone on the SEC Rant mentions the game coming can agree on that we can actually talk about?

If everything is a flame, then what exactly is this board for? It looks to me like the whole bunch of you are just trolling all over this board to call everyone out who even dares question anything.


Oh please. How many "bama players don't respect LSU" threads have been started in the last week? 1,000? It's fukn redundant. And none of Bama's players said anything disrespectful. If being confident is disrespectful, then we're all guilty of it.

If it's not "bama players disrespect lsu" it's "bama doesn't deserve it" or " bama begged" or "osu has a better resume" or "espn influenced voters". Those horses are dead already.

Please, for once, someone start an original thread.
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:29 pm to
of course with dipshit bama fans posting this Tripe i can easily see your point.
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:37 pm to
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Bama fans and everyone else with a brain knows Bama player and coaches have spoken highly of the LSU program. If you want a pat on the back and support of your statements in your OP, post it on the rant. Many there will agree with you and ignore the positive statements made by Bama.









Well, this is Bama's problem, not mine. Its called PR. I'm not responsible to wade through the notes of every interview to see everything that every Bama player said. This stuff is what is coming to the surface and it is what I am seeing on ESPN, on message boards, and it is what is being talked about.

That is reality. Its not my problem.
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:41 pm to
wow dude - I got nothing else. good luck getting an answer to your Origional question.

all your response did was make it look like you see somethign negative and run with it - but im willing to bet money that had Bama said anything good towards LSU, you wouldn't have made a post about it - if you say im'm wrong, they you are the most delusional LSU fan i have ever seen.

with that good luck to your team.
Posted by Dribble
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:43 pm to
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That is my perception. Its my problem.
fify
Posted by DrunkTigerBaiter
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Posted on 1/5/12 at 3:46 pm to
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They respect yall plenty, shut the frick up already.


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