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Tennesse fans regrets firing fulmer?

Posted on 10/30/11 at 10:50 am
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
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Posted on 10/30/11 at 10:50 am
Any regrets with firing fulmer?

I know kiffen really messed you guys up, but still would not have happened had fulmer not been fired. Didn't he have a 10 win season and won the east the year he was fired?

If fulmer was still coach tenn would probably be doing very well right now considering how down the east is.

Oh well. Glad we got the chief out of the deal
This post was edited on 10/30/11 at 10:52 am
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
75858 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 10:52 am to
.......are on suicide watch. I'm watching the Sunday morning post-mortem show right now. The host looks like he hasn't shaved in a week and has been on a 7 day bender. There isn't much light at the end of the tunnel either.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
30656 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 11:35 am to
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Didn't he have a 10 win season and won the east the year he was fired?

the year prior to him being fired. I agree that it was a stupid situation. He was one year removed from losing the SECCG to the National Champions.

The only firing in the SEC dumber in recent memory is Ole Miss firing David Cutcliffe. At least Cutcliffe would have been able to recruit a top notch quarterback with relative ease due to the experience with the Mannings.

Another reason that I'm glad that people other than LSU fans get to decide Les Miles' fate. He's not my favorite coach. But if we get rid of him for some stupid reason, it could easily set back our program 10-15 years.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41182 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Tennesse fans regrets firing fulmer?




But to answer the question, no. Hamilton not firing Failmer after 05 is why we're in this position.

Our upperclassmen are OVC quality thanks to Failmer.
This post was edited on 10/30/11 at 11:53 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115110 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 11:52 am to
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Another reason that I'm glad that people other than LSU fans get to decide Les Miles' fate. He's not my favorite coach. But if we get rid of him for some stupid reason, it could easily set back our program 10-15 years.


Miles is a top two coach in the nation and hes not your favorite coach
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41182 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 11:55 am to
quote:

If fulmer was still coach tenn would probably be doing very well right now considering how down the east is.




He brought the lulz in recruiting post 02. So not sure if serious...

Our coaching staff was god awful on top of that. I hate him more than any man in Tennessee athletics. Every Saturday I hate him more.

We would be sitting on 13 years without an SEC title with the same coach, and you think Tennessee fans would want that? East titles are nothing.
This post was edited on 10/30/11 at 11:57 am
Posted by KingWebbsticles
Athens, GA
Member since Sep 2010
364 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Any regrets with firing fulmer?

I know kiffen really messed you guys up, but still would not have happened had fulmer not been fired. Didn't he have a 10 win season and won the east the year he was fired?

If fulmer was still coach tenn would probably be doing very well right now considering how down the east is.


Jesus Christ. People have no clue about somethings.

Fulmer is the reason that Tennessee is so down right now. Yeah, really. Kiffin didn't help the situation but Fulmer is the reason for the state of the program.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22484 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 12:00 pm to
It's not the letting go of fulmer that UT fans should regret... it's the hiring of Kiffin and subsequent hiring of Dooley they should regret. It needed to be done (fulmer that is). But you can't compound an already difficult situation for your program by making terrible hires.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41182 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 12:01 pm to
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It's not the letting go of fulmer that UT fans should regret... it's the hiring of Kiffin and subsequent hiring of Dooley they should regret. It needed to be done (fulmer that is). But you can't compound an already difficult situation for your program by making terrible hires.



Correct. Also, Failmer should have been fired sooner.
This post was edited on 10/30/11 at 12:02 pm
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
30656 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:07 am to
quote:

It's not the letting go of fulmer that UT fans should regret... it's the hiring of Kiffin and subsequent hiring of Dooley they should regret. It needed to be done (fulmer that is). But you can't compound an already difficult situation for your program by making terrible hires.


But, you can't fire Fulmer if you don't have a better coach already lined up. It would have been better to keep Fulmer another 2-3 years if you could get an actual legitimate coach afterwards. Canning him when they did and then being stuck with consecutive hires of Kiffin and Dooley prove that it was the wrong call.

There's a reason you ended up with Kiffin and Dooley. Should have waited to fire Fulmer until a top notch ball coach was guaranteed.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:09 am to
they regret not firing him sooner.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:14 am to
Actually, we can relate to Tennessee. The difference is that R.C. Slocum is not worthy of being mentioned in the same vein as Philip Fulmer.

From 1982-2002, we didn't have a single losing season. Between 2003-2011, we have lost LESS THAN 5 GAMES twice and had 4 losing seasons.
Posted by winyahpercy
Georgetown, South Carolina
Member since Nov 2010
1383 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:18 am to
if Fulmer was still coaching the Vols, Chavis would still be their DC. If UT didn't fire Phil, would LSU's defense be the same as it is today?
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
30656 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:22 am to
quote:

they regret not firing him sooner.



well, they are stupid. I guess they like winning 7 or less games a year and losing 5 games a year. BTW, Fulmer only won less than 8 games twice in 16 seasons. And, he had 5 or more losses just 3 times in 16 seasons.

This year will mark the 4th year in a row that the Vols finish with 7 or less wins and 5 or more losses (the 1st being Fulmer's last year). So, congratulations Vol fans.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20957 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:26 am to
quote:

If fulmer was still coach tenn would probably be doing very well right now considering how down the east is.


Yeah, think about how awesome we would be if Tennessee still had awesome guys like the Sullins twins on the offensive line.
This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 8:28 am
Posted by TheRammerJammer
ORLANDO, FL
Member since Sep 2011
1201 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:28 am to
quote:

If fulmer was still coach tenn would probably be doing very well right now considering how down the east is.


Funny you mention this... I am friends with a few Tennessee fans who live in Nashville and we were chatting about football yesterday and they said they missed the fat frick.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
30656 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:31 am to
quote:

think about how awesome we would be if Tennessee still had awesome guys like the Sullins twins on the offensive line.


yeah, just forget all of the NFL DLinemen, LBs, CBs, RBs, WRs, QBs, TEs that Fulmer brought to that crapfest in Tennessee. Not to mention him having one of the best Defensive Coordinators in the country.

He sucked because he had a 5 win season after losing to the National Champions in the SEC Championship Game.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20957 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:33 am to
Here is the list of current SEC coaches Fulmer had a winning record against:



Houston Nutt





End of list
This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 8:33 am
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20957 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:33 am to
quote:

He sucked because he had a 5 win season after losing to the National Champions in the SEC Championship Game.

Almost like the 5 win season he had 3 years before that? But hey, those two 4 loss seasons in the middle were just awesome.
This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 8:34 am
Posted by Bobby Moore
Red Hill, Mississippi
Member since Jun 2005
17751 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:34 am to
The firing isn't the problem....it was the hiring of K and D.......
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