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re: AU fans: Is Roof running Chizik's D scheme or his own D scheme?
Posted on 9/27/11 at 11:08 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
Posted on 9/27/11 at 11:08 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Not in the least. I wish we had people bitching about us like they did last year with Fairley.
BOOOOOOOOO
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Posted on 9/27/11 at 11:08 am to adammwilson
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not at all. I don't care about Roof at all. I just think it might be a bit unfair to put all the blame on him. I think, like others, that he is trying to run Chizik's D and just doesn't know how
everyone else thinks he sucks. keep fighting the good fight.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 11:10 am to Quigley
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Talked to a coworker who is an AU fan and he said that Roof isn't running the system that he wants to run and is instead running Chizik's scheme. He was basically defending Roof by saying that he was having to run a D scheme that he doesn't want to run.
Is this correct? Makes sense that a HC would tell a DC to run his system, but not familiar enough with Chizik's or Roof's past D schemes to know if there is that big of a difference.
my thoughts on this all along has been that Roof is trying to do what Chizik wants and it is a conflict with what Roof has always done and implmemented - I think its a conflic of Defense planning and schemes - and Roof will be let go after thsi season, if not before.
it reminds me a lot of the Tubby/Franklin Debacle as well.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 11:10 am to adammwilson
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when you consider the talent it's a nice job.
But it's not an accomplishment you hire him away from Minnesota for.
It could have just been because the players were a year older and more experienced.
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I guess. To be fair though Minnesota and Duke are not exactly prime schools for Defensive talent.
Yet when he goes to a school that can recruit very good defensive talent, the defense gets worse...
Posted on 9/27/11 at 11:13 am to MagillaGuerilla
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But it's not an accomplishment you hire him away from Minnesota for.
I agree.
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It could have just been because the players were a year older and more experienced.
I suppose that's possible but it must be said they did improve quite a bit regardless of experience.
Still not the best hire. He should have been left at Minnesota and prove that he can make a defense improve 2 years in a row.
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Yet when he goes to a school that can recruit very good defensive talent, the defense gets worse...
but like everyone has been saying this is not his D. He is trying to run Chizik's and failing.
I don't care regardless I just don't think it's all on him. I'm not saying he is a good coach at all.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 11:16 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
It's hard to have an aggressive attitude when we are playing 15 yards off the receivers, never blitz, and never get to the qb. This philosophy of playing it safe, playing it simple to protect the new guys isn't helping them either. We need to turn these guys loose and let them learn. Sure they will make some mistakes, but they aren't gonna get any better until we take the training wheels off.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 11:40 am to PuntBamaPunt
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These three* years have been the worst Auburn defenses I have ever seen and they are getting progressively worse.
Has a lot to do with the offense AU is running. Not a whole lot of using clock and when teams are running an average of 90 plays against a defense, there are going to be break downs. When guys get tired you see a lot more arm tackling and missed assignments.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 11:45 am to Lg
LG - I do agree with some of what you are saying, however saying this is caused by our Offense - is honestly a lame excuse that some fans have adopted.
the fact is - the kids are confused - and I think that is straight from the Roof/Chizik disconnect in Defensive Continuity.
the fact is - the kids are confused - and I think that is straight from the Roof/Chizik disconnect in Defensive Continuity.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 11:49 am to Lg
Wrong...we are avaging 55 plays a game. Nice try
Posted on 9/27/11 at 11:54 am to piggidyphish
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not at all. I don't care about Roof at all. I just think it might be a bit unfair to put all the blame on him
You need to realize your talking about a fan base that blamed 4 different OC's during the Tuberville era before they wanted to put any responsibility on the head coach. Three more def. coor. to go before Chizick carries any blame.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 11:56 am to 4nmylifetime
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4nmylifetime
Ted Roof's #2 fan.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 12:09 pm to adammwilson
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These three* years have been the worst Auburn defenses I have ever seen and they are getting progressively worse.
I do not understand this either, you can see the atheletes and talent on the field. It just isn't clicking. But oh well I don't care. RTR
Posted on 9/27/11 at 12:12 pm to piggidyphish
Anyone have a link of this altercation between Chiz and Roof on the sidelines during the FAU game?
I have no idea what's going on about who's scheme it is... Chiz seemed to have had a much more aggressive defense when he was at AU as the DC as we're seeing now.
I have no idea what's going on about who's scheme it is... Chiz seemed to have had a much more aggressive defense when he was at AU as the DC as we're seeing now.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 12:16 pm to i am dan
I think it was in the 3rd quarter. Roof obviously wanted to do something else with the dbs, and Chiz and lolley definitely want something different. Chiz won that battle.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 12:22 pm to parkjas2001
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Wrong...we are avaging 55 plays a game. Nice try
Not your offense. In the first three games, didn't the teams y'all were playing run an average of 91 plays against your D? That's all I was saying. The propensity for your offense to score quickly lends your defense to being on the field a lot longer.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 12:24 pm to parkjas2001
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Wrong...we are avaging 55 plays a game. Nice try
If you are averaging 55 plays a game and your opponent is averaging 90, isn't there a problem there?
Posted on 9/27/11 at 12:26 pm to NoNC4Tubs
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NoNC4Tubs
Nice obsession, very subtle.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 12:29 pm to Lg
you are both correct - I suspect he ready your other post and interpreted it the same way I did - but your point is valid in the way you stated it - we just missunderstood - at least I did 
Posted on 9/27/11 at 12:30 pm to Lg
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The propensity for your offense to score quickly lends your defense to being on the field a lot longer.
No. The propensity of our defense to not be able to get off the field on 3rd and anything lends to them being on the field a lot longer.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 12:32 pm to blzr
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Nice obsession, very subtle.
ATPB'er, I mean Tardfan
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