Is self reporting/penalizing of NCAA violations a bargaining or settlement ploy

That's the pretty much the way it works. However, in this case, much like Pearl's, they governing body was lied to. That means the NCAA may still bring down the hammer. Few things are more dishonorable than being caught lying under the honor system.

I plead guilty to murder, and i served 10 years instead of life.

Well, yes and no. It is a violation not to self report once you know, so you technically have to do it anyways. However, the fact that you did discover the violations on your own and didn't just report them because Yahoo aired your laundry gives you some favor with the NCAA.

I feel that self-penalizing is just a bargaining chip with the NCAA. like "hey, we already busted his arse out, so don’t bust ours out as bad... please" to which the NCAA responds, "we will do whatever we feel like, just cause we took it easy on college A, doesn’t mean shite for college B, but nice of you to try"

The NCAA makes it up as they go. I really feel like they could catch people and resolve it quickly. But if they kept the OSU players out of the Sugar Bowl, they know revenue would be lost. So they drag their feet until after the financial liability passes.

Who cares if Pryor misses some games against the School for the Blind and Deaf. But missing the Sugar Bowl would have lost the NCAA and their big whigs money.

Might be off base but feel free to correct me if my view is mis-informed

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all teams would be out to cover their arse as best as possible. compliance departments would be replaced by 'hide our shite' departments

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So you're saying Auburn is one step ahead of everyone else?

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Well, yes and no. It is a violation not to self report once you know, so you technically have to do it anyways. However, the fact that you did discover the violations on your own and didn't just report them because Yahoo aired your laundry gives you some favor with the NCAA.

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I have one problem here, that be they flat out lied and the Coach at that nonetheless who on National TV scolded his players for the very same reason as he, lying. He also made them stand by their commitment in playing another year and foregoing their chance at the NFL draft. Whatever happened to the word "INTEGRITY"? That is the one word every institution, The Heisman, the NCAA, the Conferences and the Schools "SUPPOSEDLY" lives by every day but yet everyone acts like it doesn't or never exsisted in the English Language.
From The NCAA's own words in their Core Values statement:

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Core Values
The Association – through its member institutions, conferences and national office staff – shares a belief in and commitment to:

• The collegiate model of athletics in which students participate as an avocation, balancing their academic, social and athletics experiences.

• The highest levels of integrity and sportsmanship.

• The pursuit of excellence in both academics and athletics.

• The supporting role that intercollegiate athletics plays in the higher education mission and in enhancing the sense of community and strengthening the identity of member institutions.

• An inclusive culture that fosters equitable participation for student-athletes and career opportunities for coaches and administrators from diverse backgrounds.

• Respect for institutional autonomy and philosophical differences.

• Presidential leadership of intercollegiate athletics at the campus, conference and national levels.
Last Updated: Jun 29, 2010

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Somewhere along the lines we have got to get back to where everyone plays, Coached, adhere, and lives by the same equitable rules and guides and on the same playing field because, if we do not it will not be long until there will no longer be College Athletics and the Amature Athlete.

the next one to watch is LSU's self report and self imposed penalties. Will the NCAA accept those? Will LSU get probation? Not sure when this will be ruled on by the NCAA?

LSU is awaiting the NCAA enforcement staff's completion of its review of the reports and anticipates receiving a notice of allegations from the NCAA, outlining the violations the NCAA believes have occurred.



December 16,2010: Baton Rouge - LSU has docked itself two scholarships in the upcoming recruiting class and two scholarships overall for the 2011-12 school year as part of the self-imposed restrictions for recruiting violations uncovered in 2009, the school said Thursday.

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"LSU took quick and thorough action when we discovered these violations and we are hopeful the NCAA will ultimately agree with our assessment of this case," said LSU Chancellor Michael Martin. "The reports to the NCAA and SEC and our decision to self-impose penalties are the culmination of many months of arduous work by our compliance office and I am confident their thorough examination of this case has produced appropriate sanctions for the football program."

Our compliance office discovered additional violations during the course of this investigation and took immediate corrective measures to ensure they would not occur again, which is what a good compliance office is supposed to do," said Joe Alleva, Vice Chancellor and Director of Athletics. "I am disappointed that these violations took place, but I am proud of the way that LSU reacted to the situation. We now stand ready to assist the NCAA in the completion of this process."

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Vacated season for starters

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I wish the NCAA had not started using this.... What happens on the field is what counts. Alabama having to Vacate almost three seasons for textbooks was a joke. Scholarship limits are better and actually hurt the team.. Take 30 scholarships from OSU and see what happens.

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I wish the NCAA had not started using this.... What happens on the field is what counts. Alabama having to Vacate almost three seasons for textbooks was a joke. Scholarship limits are better and actually hurt the team.. Take 30 scholarships from OSU and see what happens.

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The fact that Alabama's penalty was that harsh is what was the joke. They literally were a textbook example (no pun intended) of how to police yourself. Tressel withheld information and yet they won't get hit anywhere near as hard as Alabama was. Watch and see. The NCAA simply won't hammer a major Big Ten program because is doesn't want to.