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Recruiting Numbers

Posted on 10/28/10 at 10:50 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 10/28/10 at 10:50 am
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How the current BCS Top 10 falls in the same recruiting rankings -- 1. Auburn (11th in recruiting); 2. Oregon (22nd); 3. Boise State (not ranked); 4. TCU (59th); 5. Michigan State (33rd); 6. Missouri (32nd); 7. Alabama (third); 8. Utah (tied for 52nd); 9. Oklahoma (seventh); 10. Wisconsin (42nd).
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/28/10 at 10:52 am to
Wow, maybe coaching does play a part.
Posted by LSUBlake8
Pville
Member since Aug 2008
343 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:05 am to
Go look at BCS Champions since 2003......

Then tell me where those teams average in National Recruiting...year in and year out.

Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55891 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:09 am to
quote:

Go look at BCS Champions since 2003......

Then tell me where those teams average in National Recruiting...year in and year out.


boom.
Posted by Alabamya
Da Ham
Member since Jan 2009
9179 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:12 am to
quote:

Go look at BCS Champions since 2003......


this
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43498 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Go look at BCS Champions since 2003......


what about the 98-2002 champions?
Posted by flomacanes
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2847 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:18 am to
1. A LOT of football left to play

2. Look at 3 of those teams: Boise St., TCU, and UTAH. They're ranked in the top 10 because they're undefeated. They're undefeated because they don't play in real conference.

3.
quote:

Go look at BCS Champions since 2003...... Then tell me where those teams average in National Recruiting...year in and year out.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43498 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:21 am to

Are they credible?

Analysts say they rank players based on video, statistics, college offers, the caliber of high school competition, and the opinions of prep and college coaches. Wallace is satisfied if half of his All-Americans start at least two years and make all-conference.

Most analysts have no playing experience beyond high school. Rivals.com editor Bobby Burton worked as an undergraduate video assistant at Texas and a graduate recruiting assistant at Houston.

Wallace was a lawyer for eight years. Newberg, who aspires to become an NFL scout, entered the field after majoring in psychology and sociology in college.

''You don't have to have played,'' ABC Sports broadcaster and former Auburn head coach Terry Bowden said. ''If you're a legitimate recruiting guy, you can learn how to see talent.''

Bowden believes the rankings are credible to a degree because many analysts rely heavily on college recruiting coordinators.

''I'm not sure colleges recruit the guys that analysts rank. I think they rank the guys colleges are recruiting,'' Bowden said. ''They (recruiting services) have a difficult relationship with recruiting coordinators. If you get too close to a coordinator, he's not going to give you information unless you rank his player high.''

Bowden said he was leery of analysts when coaching but learned quickly at Auburn to ''play the game and take it seriously. You may be happy with the people you recruit, but you don't want to get a reputation of never being ranked by analysts.''

Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville credits recruiting analysts for ''usually doing their homework.''

''I think sometimes the opinions are off base,'' Tuberville said. ''For instance, I coached nine years at Miami and I don't think we were ever a top recruiting class, yet we won three national championships.''

Rivals and Scout have publishers who operate Web sites devoted to particular schools. Lemming believes they are ''all homers toward their school.''

That could involve rating a player or a school's class higher than it should be.

Bowden noted intrigue at how high recruiting services rate Southern schools. As of last Thursday, six of the top 13 teams rated by Rivals.com play in the SEC, and no other conference had more than two teams that high.

''Where is college football most rabid?'' Bowden said. ''If I'm a businessman, if I'm going to make a mistake, I'll rank a Southern team high since they're buying the material.''

Rivals.com would not reveal the formula it uses to rate teams.

''It's kind of a company secret,'' Southeastern analyst JC Shurburtt said. ''People say we skew rankings. It is designed where that does not happen.''

AuburnSports.com senior editor Bryan Matthews said he makes his player evaluations independent of outside influences. ''I come to my own opinion of how good a player someone is.''

Connecticut coach Randy Edsall, a vocal critic of the industry, said Web sites mislead immature recruits by promising four- or five-star reviews - the highest possible - in exchange for their playing in particular all-star games or exclusive access to their recruiting news. Edsall said one site that hosts an all-star game offered to rank a recruit No. 1 if he played in the game.

''They're using the kids for their benefit. I don't think the rankings are very objective at all,'' Edsall said.

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Posted by AUTigLN11
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Member since Mar 2010
4833 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:24 am to
quote:

what about the 98-2002 champions?


What? Everyone on Tigerdroppings knows college football started in 2003.
Posted by mrbeastful
Member since Jan 2009
1436 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:24 am to
quote:

what about the 98-2002 champions?

No rivals.com back then.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43498 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:33 am to
quote:

No rivals.com back then.


How many "top ten recruiting classes" have been compiled by teams who are at or have finished ranked outside the top 25 in the same time frame as the ones who finished ranked in the top 10 including winning the BCS championship?

Of the teams that have made it to the BCS bowl games, what is the percentage of those with top 10 ranked class versus not. What is the win percentage for each?

Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30752 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:34 am to
College Football is down this year. If you cannot realize that, I don't know what to tell you.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43498 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 11:43 am to
quote:

College Football is down this year. If you cannot realize that, I don't know what to tell you.


I'm asking for data over a 7 year period.

If the rankings are accurate, the data will fully support them.
Posted by pigtrino
Member since Jun 2010
143 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

College Football is down this year. If you cannot realize that, I don't know what to tell you.


How can college football be down? That makes no sense. You mean that your team is down. You may even say that traditional powers are down which only means more parity. The whole of college football is not down.
Posted by StreetDiction
Austin
Member since Dec 2009
3969 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

What? Everyone on Tigerdroppings knows college football started in 2003.


ha, I knew some dummy was going to say this not thinking about when recruiting sites really started keeping track of incoming players.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119609 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Boise State (not ranked);


Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43886 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

Top 25 recruiting classes, based on average annual Rivals.com rankings:
1. USC
2. Florida
3. Alabama
4. LSU
5. Texas
6. Georgia
7. Oklahoma
8. FSU
9. Notre Dame
10. Ohio State
11. Auburn
12. Michigan
13. Miami
14. Tennessee
15. South Carolina



quote:

boom.


You didn't read the article. There was nothing to Boom.....
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41194 posts
Posted on 10/28/10 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

what about the 98-2002 champions?




2 of Tennessee's classes on the National Title team were number 1 by Lemming.
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