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Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:14 pm
Posted by RTRnFlorida
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:14 pm
From former player, Martin Houston.

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“They still work under the same auspice of the football strength and conditioning coach," Houston said. "I guess, to me, the same thing that got Alabama whooped this year in football is the same thing that has gotten Nate Oats whooped every year in basketball. And this year, it’s probably more obvious in these two sports because it’s all or nothing. They don’t have the physical makeup, mentally or physically, to execute other than that.”



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Posted by Sandkhan
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:24 pm to
He played over 30 years ago. He has no idea about modern strength and conditioning.

This is the same as any other 50 year old saying “rub some dirt on it”
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:36 pm to
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RTRnFlorida

Posted by RTRnFlorida
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:20 pm to
So are you saying he is wrong about our strength program?
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12412 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:29 pm to
I think anyone drawing S&C comparisons between sports is an absolute crank.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20006 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:29 pm to
I have been beating this drum for some time now.

Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20006 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

He played over 30 years ago. He has no idea about modern strength and conditioning.

This is the same as any other 50 year old saying “rub some dirt on it”


Definitely understand that but the reality if we physically can't keep intensity and that has been the growing situation since Ballou came
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25447 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:38 pm to
I don’t understand. What football’s strength and conditioning program does has absolutely no bearing over what our basketball program does? Two separate entities, facilities, coaches, etc.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12412 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:41 pm to
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Definitely understand that but the reality if we physically can't keep intensity and that has been the growing situation since Ballou came



There are plausible alternative explanations to that though: we have simply had diminished talent identification and development in the late Saban era and it started to show up on the field in 2021-23 but arguably reached its zenith in 2024-25. We've almost totally flushed out the recruiting misses of the late Saban era now and most of the remaining players from that cohort are contributors. I think we start to have a more holistic picture if you believe that DeBoer is hiring high quality staff. Frankly, we're more apt to arrive at a "restart the whole program" answer than "S&C needs to be replaced."
Posted by Sandkhan
Member since Jun 2009
7730 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:57 pm to
I’m saying he isn’t knowledgeable enough to critique it and neither are you and I. We watch the games. We don’t have sports science degrees and we’re not watching the players workout.

I tend to blame scheme and coaching more than strength and conditioning. I think it’s caveman type shite to chalk it up to “they aren’t tough enough anymore. We never lost while Cochran was here”.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 4:36 pm to
Basketball has their own strength coach.
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
4971 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 4:38 pm to
There is a reason Martin Houston is on the 6-7am timeslot on the local radio. He is still weekly bringing up reasons why Milroe had problems and even tells his sons on the show that they don't know what they are talking about because he was a Bama player. He is very full of himself. All of this is hearsay from me though because I won't listen to him.

With that being said, our strength and conditioning in football sucks, but those basketball guys are up and down the floor as much as any team, they made be strong some teams but are stronger than most. I don't know where he gets how the same guys are over both programs.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16649 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 7:32 pm to
Loved watching Martin Houston play.

Don’t know if he’s in tune with current S&C, but I’d defy anyone to watch our football team this past year and claim we physically were a tough team. That to me is a reflection of the attitude of the coaching staff and/or the S&C staff.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41767 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 7:51 pm to
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I have been beating this drum for some time now.



Among others
Posted by Shocco
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 8:07 pm to
Houston knows its just a matter of time.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
6573 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

I’m saying he isn’t knowledgeable enough to critique it and neither are you and I. We watch the games. We don’t have sports science degrees and we’re not watching the players workout.


That's right. And don't every question me on theology. I have a seminary degree. Just listen to what I tell you.
Posted by RTRnFlorida
Member since Mar 2024
2926 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 8:35 pm to
Sports science is a degree? When I went to bama, they had exercise science for students to take classes in to raise their GPA’s.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20006 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

There are plausible alternative explanations to that though: we have simply had diminished talent identification and development in the late Saban era


Talent has nothing to do with desire and drive. Off-season workouts build that and a toughness and this is what we have slowly lost yet people seem to think it's only the talent or position coach or head coach.

We have changed all of those things and there is only one constant. Our S&C program
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12412 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 8:54 pm to
The thing is that poor technique from bad on-field coaching can make strong guys look weak and fast guys look slow.

It is hard to tease those two apart in my opinion.
Posted by Sandkhan
Member since Jun 2009
7730 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 4:47 am to
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That's right. And don't every question me on theology. I have a seminary degree. Just listen to what I tell you.


*yawn*
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