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What is Kane Womack's philosophy on the defensive line ?
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:26 pm
I preface this with I don't know anything about coaching but it seems to me if your front line is 2 dts, 1 bandit, who to me is not a traditional pass rusher & 1 wolf/olb who is supposed to rush the passer you're gonna have trouble attracting top level d line talent. What is wrong with a 4-2-5 with a nose or run stuffer, tackle & 2 traditional pash rushing d ends? What is the benefit of his scheme ?
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:33 pm to Chris ALL Capps
Does he have one?
Guy lives in double mug and that’s… really all I can say about the front six.
Even when I watch Penn State or Ohio State run a 4-2-5 it feels much more intricate
Guy lives in double mug and that’s… really all I can say about the front six.
Even when I watch Penn State or Ohio State run a 4-2-5 it feels much more intricate
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:37 pm to Chris ALL Capps
Its a bend dont break philosophy designed to create confusion and turnovers.
No true DEs, edge rushing lbers who can drop into coverage.
Gap scheme where DL commit to the A or B gap which is why we give up big runs sometimes.
It requires elite defensive backs who can tackle in space. This is where we really struggled. When our safeties missed open field tackles it was bad news.
No true DEs, edge rushing lbers who can drop into coverage.
Gap scheme where DL commit to the A or B gap which is why we give up big runs sometimes.
It requires elite defensive backs who can tackle in space. This is where we really struggled. When our safeties missed open field tackles it was bad news.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:51 pm to UhOhOreo
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Guy lives in double mug and that’s… really all I can say about the front six.
Even when I watch Penn State or Ohio State run a 4-2-5 it feels much more intricate
Don't even pretend to criticize Kane here or the board superfans will come down hard on you. "Bama is elite on defense!"
On the contrary, they were statistically worse comparing 2024 -2025. A decline.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:52 pm to Chris ALL Capps
I mean, it worked quite well outside of the first and last game. And Indiana didn't do anything special, they just won their 1 on 1s and were very sound in their scheme.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:53 pm to TS1926
You cant average 85 rushing yards a game and win anything of importance.
Our defense just gave up when they realized our offense was going to look like a blind man playing scrabble all night.
Our defense just gave up when they realized our offense was going to look like a blind man playing scrabble all night.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:55 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I mean, it worked quite well outside of the first and last game. And Indiana didn't do anything special, they just won their 1 on 1s and were very sound in their scheme.
It didn't work against two teams:
1. One spent all Spring and Summer prepping for the game with Bama.
2. The other was an elite performing offense that took advantage of poor gap control, missed tackles and poor coverages.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:59 pm to crimsoncoded94
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Our defense just gave up when they realized our offense was going to look like a blind man playing scrabble all night.
They did but I went back and rewatched the game. They had a chance to get off the field on the long drive where Indiana got a FG. People screwed up multiple times there allowing Indiana to sustain that drive. Number 1 with a poor angle to the tackle on the screen pass. Should have been stopped for a loss instead went for a 9 yard gain. Number 2 got roasted by Becker on the long slow developing pass play which got Indiana to the 30. Number 0 arm tackled the RB which drove the ball for a first down inside the 15. That was just the first scoring drive by Indiana.
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:03 pm to TS1926
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2. The other was an elite performing offense that took advantage of poor gap control, missed tackles and poor coverages.
yep, and they also took advantage of our offenses late-season propensity to struggle to even get a first down, in-turn hurting our offense.
The Indiana game turned out like it did because they were pretty much the only team we played that was good enough to take full advantage of all our ugly short-comings.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:15 pm to Funky Tide 8
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The Indiana game turned out like it did because they were pretty much the only team we played that was good enough to take full advantage of all our ugly short-comings.
Yes, that's exactly it.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:18 pm to Funky Tide 8
His philosophy is to have an elite offense that can score 30+ on average while he gives up 20+ on average.
It is a high risk high reward defense that does excel in the the red zone but most defenses get stronger in that area. The lbs need to tackle and read gaps quickly.
It is a high risk high reward defense that does excel in the the red zone but most defenses get stronger in that area. The lbs need to tackle and read gaps quickly.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:42 pm to Syd
It's cute. That's what the defense is. When the best description of the defense is bend but don't break that's terrible.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:51 pm to Tide or Die87
We force a lot more turnovers than we did under golding.
We only lost against teams that we didnt force turnovers against.
Oklahoma and Indiana didnt turn the ball over.
Our offense was dogshit.
We only lost against teams that we didnt force turnovers against.
Oklahoma and Indiana didnt turn the ball over.
Our offense was dogshit.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:24 pm to crimsoncoded94
How many turnovers did we create?
Posted on 1/7/26 at 5:31 am to TS1926
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It didn't work against two teams:
It didn’t work period. I don’t see a Bama defense in the top 10. We were alright against the pass, but we were soft as wet toilet paper against the run. Womack runs a soft defense and anyone defending that shite is soft. Yall must’ve forgot what a real defense looks like. Turning into a bunch of pansy Ole Miss fans. Womack is a half a step better than Pete Golding. That’s it
Posted on 1/7/26 at 8:54 am to Chris ALL Capps
Conceptually we are supposed to be a gap shooting DL as a 3-3-5 stack defense. That means our defensive approach is predicated on shooting gaps and blowing up plays.
Under Saban we wanted to each double teams with DL/DE guys and allow edge guys to pressure the QB.
James Smith was supposed to be a penetrating DL guy but we've seen very mixed results there. Tim Keenan was a block eater.
Under Saban we wanted to each double teams with DL/DE guys and allow edge guys to pressure the QB.
James Smith was supposed to be a penetrating DL guy but we've seen very mixed results there. Tim Keenan was a block eater.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 9:10 am to crimsoncoded94
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requires elite defensive backs
So our defense requires elite players. Our offense requires elite players.
Sounds like we are way too overcomplicated on both sides of the ball. The more I hear, the more I dislike this staff.
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