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DeBoer Dynasty

Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:21 pm
Posted by SPennington
Birmingham
Member since Oct 2015
177 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:21 pm
Between the 2001–2023 seasons, we suffered only ONE loss by 21+ points: The 44–16 loss vs Clemson in the National Championship in 2019. That one sucked, but it was in the NC. At least we made it. That level of consistency defined our program for over two decades. Now look at last year and the last month:

24–3 loss to OU (2024)

28–7 loss to UGA

38–3 loss to IU

Three blowout losses where we scored a combined 13 points under a head coach who is supposedly an offensive-minded leader. More 21+ point defeats than the previous 22 seasons combined. That’s embarrassing and a measurable break from the standard at Alabama that Saban worked so hard to establish.

The fact we haven’t heard of any staff dismissals yet is insane. I don’t want DeBoer as our head coach, but I know he will get another year before he’s fired, but at least make some changes now to make it somewhat interesting.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16518 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:23 pm to
This is all interesting. I had not considered it.
Posted by JoylessMurderball
Member since Sep 2024
226 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:35 pm to
Every comment like this never mentions the roster he inherited just wasn’t very good. It never mentions the best players from the past two seasons have been low ranked Washington players. I agree that getting blown out is inexcusable in the long run but holy crap at least mention the reality of the situation when it comes to the talent on this roster.
Posted by SPennington
Birmingham
Member since Oct 2015
177 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:41 pm to
He inherited a top-five roster in all of college football. The mindset may have needed work, but the talent was undeniable. Maximizing that talent is his responsibility.
Posted by JoylessMurderball
Member since Sep 2024
226 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:45 pm to
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He inherited a top-five roster in all of college football


Are you serious? By whose delusional definition of talent are you saying that Alabama had a top 5 roster when Saban walked out that door? Did you not just see the thread that every WR from the 2020-2023 recruiting class had transferred and out of that list there isn’t one guy that is an actual number 1 receiver.

Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35164 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:57 pm to
You can shuffle the deck chairs but the ship is taking on water and headed to the bottom of the ocean regardless.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22501 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:57 pm to
Can’t lean on the roster excuse after getting thumped by FSU.

Doesn’t matter if he inherited the 1991 Texas State Armadillos, quitting in the biggest games of the year is inexcusable.
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
1581 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:58 pm to
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By whose delusional definition of talent are you saying that Alabama had a top 5 roster when Saban walked out that door?


This is why we have to give him 2-3 more seasons to see if he can get it right. You have to let this play out until after the 2027 season. It’s Grubb’s first year also, so he should get at least one more also. So many players left when Saban left which had to have an impact. He’s recruiting better than expected and the results were an improvement this year over last season.

I’m not a fan, and I’m not convinced DeBoer
Is the answer, but who would you replace him with? We do not want to be one of these schools that gives a coach 3 seasons to win a championship or get fired. We don’t want to be Auburn or LSU.


Additionally, we have to pay the Saban penalty, you can’t be dominant for that amount of time and not experience a drop off. We just have to endure it.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26320 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

He inherited a top-five roster in all of college football. The mindset may have needed work, but the talent was undeniable.


66 Transfers out since Saban retired. Can you let me know how many of those were superstars and made huge impacts for their team?
Posted by JoylessMurderball
Member since Sep 2024
226 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:01 pm to
I literally said that the blowouts are inexcusable but at the very least you have to acknowledge the roster after Saban left wasn’t close to the “Alabama Standard” as far as talent goes.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46134 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

Every comment like this never mentions the roster he inherited just wasn’t very good.


OP is technically incorrect because we lost by 21 to LSU in 2003, but the fact that we got our asses kicked fewer times in more games under extreme sanctions and Mike Shula than has happened under DeBoer is indefensible. The roster isn't what it once was for sure, but it's not fricking sanctions bad.
Posted by JoylessMurderball
Member since Sep 2024
226 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

I’m not a fan, and I’m not convinced DeBoer Is the answer, but who would you replace him with? We do not want to be one of these schools that gives a coach 3 seasons to win a championship or get fired. We don’t want to be Auburn or LSU.


This is where I’m at on it. At least give him the chance to get his roster in and then see what happens. The other issue is that with the portal and NIL every time you fire someone you leave yourself wide open to have massive roster attrition which just puts you even further away from competing for a championship.
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
1581 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:10 pm to
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every time you fire someone you leave yourself wide open to have massive roster attrition


Exactly, look at what’s happening to the barn right now. And again, who do you go get to replace him? I supposed some people think you can just get whoever to come to Alabama, but no one better than him is coming; Lanning, Cignetti, Sark, Kiffin, Smart are not coming here.

Dude just needs to make some staff changes and move on to Keelon so we can see what he can do.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
23426 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

This is why we have to give him 2-3 more seasons


No but heck no. 3 more seasons of this crap? How about we go 1 with improvement then we think about 2.
Posted by SPennington
Birmingham
Member since Oct 2015
177 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:18 pm to
There are a few I’d throw everything at, but I acknowledge he has at least one more year. But not making staff changes right now is painting the same story next season and he will surely be fired after that.
Posted by Crimsonpirate23
Member since Jan 2024
323 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:22 pm to
What if, and I’m talking purely hypothetical here, what if there are no further staff changes?
Posted by RTRnFlorida
Member since Mar 2024
2731 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:24 pm to
Who in the hellacious down voted this? Pretentious Bama fans who don’t give shite to NIL I assume
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
4103 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:25 pm to
Who's to say that one of the reasons Saban retired was that he saw the cliff coming right at him and it was unavoidable and cataclysmic? Imagine seeing that AND all of the players walking in his office demanding to start and get paid. He made a business decision, just like Bama's players did against Indiana.

We can certainly argue DeBoer's X's and O's, but the roster has not been great for years. And like it or not it is pretty damn miraculous to have had winning seasons and a trip to the CFP with the issues on the depth chart.
Posted by SPennington
Birmingham
Member since Oct 2015
177 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:34 pm to
Over 80% of the roster consisted of blue-chip recruits with the vast majority being 4 and 5 star players. Statistically elite recruiting classes that he inherited. Talent-wise, it was unquestionably one of the most talented rosters in college football. The mindset and commitment can be questioned, but getting the best out of that talent ultimately falls on the head coach. Saban would likely have gotten more out of that roster (even with the Bonds, Sayin, Downs, and McLaughlin losses) than Kalen DeBoer, but that comparison is apples to oranges. I believe the retention of key talent was mismanaged (of those mentioned), but I obviously can’t confirm that other than hearsay. What would Cignetti have done with that roster?
Posted by SPennington
Birmingham
Member since Oct 2015
177 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:37 pm to
Then we have a disappointing season again, don’t pick up needs in the portal that can truly help, and DeBoer is fired at the end of aforementioned disappointing season.
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