No sugar coating it, a change needs to be made

The rest of the league probably paid close to a half billion dollars collectively in alimony during Saban’s tenure, while we didn't pay a dime. So we should have plenty of money available.

You can't afford not to fire him if donations are about to go south.

Alabama needs the right persons calling for this.

Ok, and what’s your rebuild time when 30 hit the portal?

Given we’re still seeing the effects of what happened when Saban left on transfers.

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So we should have plenty of money available.

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You must not have seen Greg Byrne begging multiple times over the last couple of years for fans to donate to NIL.

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You can't afford not to fire him if donations are about to go south.

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The ones in power will have to do a cost comparison between keeping this staff and making wholesale changes.

Let's be honest, we're about to see a serious decline in money coming in from supporters due to the poor product we currently see which will have a compounding affect of lowering the quality and amount of players we can pull in with NIL which then leads to a worse product put on the field especially with this current staff. How many of you are planning to increase or even give financially to the program without serious changes being made.

If we made wholesale changes, yes, the buyout payments would hurt and we would probably lose more players to the portal, but isn't that probably inevitable soon anyway with how most of us feel things are progressing.

Will we be in a better position one or two years from now as a brand and program to make those changes. Yes, the buyout will be lower but how bad off could the program be in a couple of years without changing now.

People talk about DeBoer being able to adjust and the great recruiting class coming in. Do people really see a cultural shift of toughness coming with Kalen and do we trust this staff to develop that recruiting class. Someone last night made an excellent point. He said, Name one group that actually improved over the season. Honestly, there weren't any. Maybe we can say Talty kicked better toward the end but that may be it.

Now, there are real questions about who we'd get and who would make that hire. I certainly see issues with that but are we better off staying with the current situation. I've heard don't fire Kalen but force him to make staff changes. While I feel it can help, I don't think enough changes will be made and where is that toughness mindset we need going to come from. That comes from the head coach.

Kalen hired friends at key positions making it less likely changes are made. And let's be honest, who's gonna be knocking down the door to hire away these guys. I hate to go through wholesale changes and it's risky but we are about to see our donation and NIL base collapse which is a death nail in this current system ESPECIALLY if you don't have the right coaches in place.

Did we make the playoffs, yes. A 12 team playoff as one of the last teams in. But do we really feel we are getting better or worse as a program over these two seasons? If it were just a terrible game yesterday, then let it go; but we looked bad for a lot of the second half of the season outside of overall defensive play.

So, which cost us more, changing now or in a year or two.

We all watched the shite show that came with so many teams hiring and firing coaches the past six months, yet there are still threads like this.

#2 recruiting class coming in. #3 last year. Russell waiting to start at QB.

Starting over now is such a bad idea. I can't believe the OP got that many upvotes.

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Who? Are you going to pay it? Should we take money from basketball to pay it? Should we raid our NIL coffers to do it?

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Exactly

What we need is our HC to show development and growth which means firing some of his friends starting with the ST coach. Also I would fire S&C coach and possibly OL and RBs.

I would also hire a running game coordinator to create a power spread running scheme to add to Grubbs vertical passing strategy.

I'm not gonna fire coordinators because those are hard to find and both have proven they can get the job done but both need better support.

I would also invest heavily in the DL (at least 3 additions), OL (at least 3 additions) and pick up a veteran speed back (RB), Kicker, Punter and LB (possibly 2).

I believe everywhere else we are sorted.

Agree with all those points, except I’m further along than possibly firing the OL coach. He flat out has to go.

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Agree with all those points, except I’m further along than possibly firing the OL coach. He flat out has to go.

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I understand everyone who says this. I'm just not sure if it's him or if it the fact we are literally weaker, slower with less endurance.

Doesn't matter how much he makes them hit the sled, learn to step, bull their neck, get back, etc... if they don't have the physical abilities and mental toughness developed from the off-season workouts.

But yeah, I completely get your point and probably would do as you would... then again a year ago I wanted Wommack fired and now we see he is one of the better DCs if he gets the right tools.

The defense couldn’t get off the field, it wasn’t really the offenses fault until the late third.

They scored on six of the first 8 drives with only thirteen completions, they were running and the line couldn’t stop it because we don’t stack the box ever

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The defense couldn’t get off the field, it wasn’t really the offenses fault until the late third. They scored on six of the first 8 drives with only thirteen completions, they were running and the line couldn’t stop it because we don’t stack the box ever

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Yes and no. Long drives made the defense tired. Especially when the offense can’t sustain a single drive, not a 1 minus where Ty fumbles. By the 3rd they were smoked. But you’re right, in base we couldn’t stop the run. It was jailbreak after jailbreak.