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Odd re-occurring theme, we end the first half great, start the second half poorly

Posted on 11/1/25 at 2:44 am
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
3972 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 2:44 am
In going over some recaps of our games a major trend jumped out at me.

We close out the first half very strongly, the last few minutes of the 2nd quarter are often times our best. We normally are able to end the half with strong defensive stops and scores and build a lead and look to be taking command of the game.

However we have consistently opened the 2nd halves very poorly. If we get the ball first we usually go 3 and out (usually a really ugly possession) and the other team has scored a touchdown on us on their first possession of the 2nd half way too often.

That pattern has happened in almost every single SEC game we've played.

Maybe it's just random luck it's worked out that way but it did jump out at me as odd.
This post was edited on 11/1/25 at 2:55 am
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
3891 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 8:09 am to
seems like grubb gets very predictable to start the 2nd half. actually seems like grubb gets very predictable on 1st down in most games. thereby stressing the offense to the max. sometimes it seems to me grubb is trying to set ty up to fail, but thats just my thoughts.

there are times when grubb is as good of a play designer and caller as anyone out there. then there are those times, in every game, where it's like he was the top graduate of the dave rader school for ineffective oc's.
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
1411 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 8:18 am to
I agree with this. I get the impression that Grubb has this almost uncontrollable urge to go ultra conservative and play "not to lose" at times, which is usually a recipe for losing.

I'm not saying he should be calling all kinds of crazy assed plays all the time but you CANNOT let off the gas on anyone unless it's late in the 4th and you have a big lead (e.g. up by 4 TDs).

Sidenote-I hope he doesn't try giving the ball to Proctor again unless it's 1 yard or less for the TD. 3 yards out is simply too far. If anything, maybe line him up in the backfield and then run a play action pass maybe to Cuevas.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
61917 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 8:29 am to
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Sidenote-I hope he doesn't try giving the ball to Proctor again unless it's 1 yard or less for the TD. 3 yards out is simply too far. If anything, maybe line him up in the backfield and then run a play action pass maybe to Cuevas.


I want to see the big man throw the ball.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
2149 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 8:43 am to
I mean if he passes on first down the run the Dm ball crowd will go crazy.
Losing 2 yards on every first down running play is ridiculous though. That’s either poor coaching or poor linemen and running backs.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
2149 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 8:46 am to
I would do away with the slow read plays because our QB never keeps the ball and everyone knows it.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
3972 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 8:56 am to
When Proctor is in the game everyone assumes he's going to be involved in the play.

Using him as a decoy would be a good change of pace. Pretend like you're going to him and then go somewhere else
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
10842 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 8:56 am to
I said it elsewhere but I think it comes down to our offense being so pass dependent. We know teams are going to adjust their coverage/rush plan after seeing what we did in the first half and it will take a bit of time to get a read on what those changes are going to be. Accordingly, I think Grubb would prefer to Establish It a bit at the start of the 2nd half while they work out the coverage and pass rush adjustments. I don't really fault that because you can bet on there being something to create a big play on defense in their back pocket. However, the results are dog shite because our offensive line simply is not very good.

Ultimately, our offensive line is just flat out failing way too often in our games. At some point, you need to have trust that your OL can move bodies and not make huge mental gaffs. You can't expect that with this 8 man rotation we're rolling out every week. When you only feel confident that 2 of your starters are locked in at their position, this is the sort of offense you can expect each week.

This is just me, but better consistency at LG seems like all we'd need to at least make "run left" a strong tendency to set everything else up. I think we need to consider playing 6OL formations more often in standard downs. Do a sort of "tackle-over" look where Proctor lines up at TE, Formby at LT, and Carroll at RT. The fact that we have shown the tendency to use Proctor in the pass and run game will likely lead to a trick play alert from the defense too.

If there isn't dramatic improvement out of the final bye week, I think Chris Kapilovic's performance would be poor enough for DeBoer to consider termination after the end of the season. I understand that we don't have ideal fits for a zone and counter heavy run scheme, but it has been two offseason conditioning programs and Spring+Fall camps with most of these linemen now.
This post was edited on 11/1/25 at 8:58 am
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
8085 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 9:48 am to
We were almost unstoppable at Georgia because our running plays were getting 4-5 yards a pop, setting up very few 3rd and longs.

Ever since, it's been a guaranteed 1-2 yard run on 2nd down if the first down pass is incomplete...continually setting up 3rd and long.

We need to be much better on 2nd downs...play calling and execution.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
10842 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 9:55 am to
I’d say we were more in the 3-4 yards per tailback run at UGA by my recollection but your point stands. We were turning 1st down runs into 2nd and on schedule and 2nd down runs into 3rd and on schedule. We couldn’t convert 3rd and short runs consistently but we kept the defense in “anything could be coming” mode on 1st and 2nd down.
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
12178 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 11:40 am to
Eh we ran the ball way better against Vandy and Missouri then we did against UGA
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29146 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 11:42 am to
Whenever we have a chance to score and bury a team for some reason Grubb goes super conservative and it annoys the frick out of me.

One possession game tho and he is outstanding
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 1:24 pm to
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Eh we ran the ball way better against Vandy and Missouri then we did against UGA


I certainly wouldn't call it way better.

Georgia - 117 yards on 38 attempts, 3.1 YPC
Vanderbilt - 146 yards on 38 attempts, 3.8 YPC
Missouri - 125 yards on 44 attempts, 2.8 YPC

The Vanderbilt one only looks marginally better because of the 28 yard touchdown with the game decided and a minute to play. There's no getting around that the running game has just been horrendous all year.
Posted by bamabonners
Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
4594 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 10:13 pm to
We usually start the half with two runs up the gut with jam. Then pass short or incomplete. Then punt.
This post was edited on 11/1/25 at 10:33 pm
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