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Texas offense Red Zone ranking - the Melt of MtVernon
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:38 am
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:38 am
Pinch your nose for this one:
Texas Red Zone offense:
#89 in 2023
#111 in 2024
And Steve Sarkisian is a great coach why? Would somebody clear this up for me?
I was never ecstatic about the Sark hire but I have been told for several years he was a godsend. Please explain.
Texas Red Zone offense:
#89 in 2023
#111 in 2024
And Steve Sarkisian is a great coach why? Would somebody clear this up for me?
I was never ecstatic about the Sark hire but I have been told for several years he was a godsend. Please explain.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:45 am
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:41 am to MtVernon
wait, yall thought sark was a great coach? B tier in the SEC
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:43 am to MtVernon
He needs an OC to replace him in play calling and just work on QB development/be hc. He has completely turned the program around culture wise.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 8:44 am
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:45 am to MtVernon
Kiffin has also had struggles in the redzone. Why is that?
I'm not sure either have great answers for the passing game in the redzone. So much of their play design is focused on getting isolation on routes to make the QB read easy. It's a lot harder to get isolation on a short field, especially on the goal line.
I'm not sure either have great answers for the passing game in the redzone. So much of their play design is focused on getting isolation on routes to make the QB read easy. It's a lot harder to get isolation on a short field, especially on the goal line.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:46 am to MtVernon
Why is he a Great coach?
Hmmm he’s led us to 2 national semis, 1 conference champ, top recruiting rankings (don’t matter unless you produce but still valuable).
Want to go with rankings? His teams have been top 5 -25 depending on the stat ranking you are comparing. If you want to cherry pick a stat he is objectively bad at and then say therefore he is a bad coach I think that’s absolutely moronic but go ahead lol.
Hmmm he’s led us to 2 national semis, 1 conference champ, top recruiting rankings (don’t matter unless you produce but still valuable).
Want to go with rankings? His teams have been top 5 -25 depending on the stat ranking you are comparing. If you want to cherry pick a stat he is objectively bad at and then say therefore he is a bad coach I think that’s absolutely moronic but go ahead lol.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:48 am to TexasWranglers
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Want to go with rankings? His teams have been top 5 -25 depending on the stat ranking you are comparing. If you want to cherry pick a stat he is objectively bad at and then say therefore he is a bad coach I think that’s absolutely moronic but go ahead lol.
Being bad in the red zone means you are not scoring touchdowns and therefore increases the likelihood of not winning against great teams. It is probably one of the most important stats with turnover margin.
If we are a top 10 redzone team in 2023 and 2024, we are probably in the NC back-to-back years.
Literally lost both semifinal games because we couldn't produce in the redzone.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 8:52 am
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:52 am to MtVernon
Just imagine a truly top 4 coach with the Texas NIL at their disposal? JFC... juggernaut.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:52 am to LSUTigresFan
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He needs an OC
After decades of following football, I have learned that when media and fans micro-manage a coach it NEVER works out.
Sark is doing what he wants to do. You can't rob him of his passion and expect success. He wants his toys. You can't take them away and tell him just make sure the room stays clean, while someone else gets to play with the toys. He doesn't want to be the CEO type HC. If he is forced to do so, that's not an answer either, because it's not him.
I'm afraid that's what comes next for Texas. Sark will be forced to do things a different way, and we'll flounder a couple years with that. Football is so far behind the business world when it comes to executive management - leadership and contributor personalities. Sark is a contributor.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:52 am to MtVernon
Some football teams are built to be better between the twenties than inside the red zone. As much as I love Lane and my Rebs, we struggled in the red zone this year because of our lack of impact offensive linemen and running game. Texas struggled here too because of the same problems.
That's why teams like Georgia, whose offense struggled mightily at times this year, is still a good red zone team. Though they had issues moving the ball down the field, they made the most of their red zone attempts. Once they get there, they are big enough up front and strong enough in the backfield to convert short-yardage situations.
That's why teams like Georgia, whose offense struggled mightily at times this year, is still a good red zone team. Though they had issues moving the ball down the field, they made the most of their red zone attempts. Once they get there, they are big enough up front and strong enough in the backfield to convert short-yardage situations.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 8:54 am
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:53 am to Quicksilver
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Kiffin has also had struggles in the redzone. Why is that?
Idk Kiffin's background. Was he raised on West-coast offense? That seems to be the issue. The SEC is too tough for that west-coast BS.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:54 am to MtVernon
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Sark is doing what he wants to do. You can't rob him of his passion and expect success. He wants his toys. You can't take them away and tell him just make sure the room stays clean, while someone else gets to play with the toys. He doesn't want to be the CEO type HC. If he is forced to do so, that's not an answer either, because it's not him.
I get that, but the proof is in the pudding. He needs to figure out how to be a top 10-20 team in the redzone to hoist that trophy or even middle of the pack and let the defense shine. He can't call dumb shite like he did Friday. Also, we need a better fricking RT. Hope Cam Williams leaves.
Like I said above, we lost both semifinal games because we couldn't produce in the redzone.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 8:56 am
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:57 am to TexasWranglers
Your analysis shits on me and other monetary contributors, and gives all the credit to a man who can't get us in the end zone.
Something has changed parallel to Sark's time at Texas, it's called NIL. We have easily a top 5 roster in the nation. Coaching has to do the rest.
Something has changed parallel to Sark's time at Texas, it's called NIL. We have easily a top 5 roster in the nation. Coaching has to do the rest.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:59 am to MtVernon
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I was never ecstatic about the Sark hire but I have been told for several years he was a godsend. Please explain.
Please check the Shorthorn football record from 2010 to 2020. As a fanatical football fan, you want it all yesterday. Neither life nor sport will give you that.
Fortunately for you, Manning and being creatures of hope will soon have you mouthing off about next year.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:59 am to LSUTigresFan
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Literally lost both semifinal games because we couldn't produce in the redzone.
This is why it gets hard to watch Texas play - even when you win 13 games. It's that constant irritation that you know things are going to bog down, and it gets tiresome to observe.
Looks like our money bought a defense, yes? Thank goodness Sark doesn't touch it.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:01 am to MtVernon
Two reasons
His offense works with speed and spreading teams out to get space. Harder to do in the red zone. His O line focuses on pass blocking more and will not get push in obvious running situations.
He also gets to cute in high pressure situations. WTF with that pitch play?
His offense works with speed and spreading teams out to get space. Harder to do in the red zone. His O line focuses on pass blocking more and will not get push in obvious running situations.
He also gets to cute in high pressure situations. WTF with that pitch play?
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:03 am to MtVernon
He's a great program manager. You gotta pick two out of great X&O, great recruiting or great program builder. No one has all 3.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:03 am to MtVernon
I think Sark is an overrated play-caller, his first 15 plays are great, after that he becomes predictable.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:03 am to MtVernon
I will be somewhat complimentary and not to quick to crucify Sark. He has a great offensive mind. The strength of the sip offense is how they use misdirection and force misalignments on the defense with the shifts. This works beautifully when a defense has to cover more of the field.
Once inside the red zone, the compression of the field becomes a strength to the defense and that misdirection is nullified for the longhorn offense.
Sark, once he shifts to a more "smash mouth" standard offense in the red zone will see more success. He needs more meat and potatoes in the red zone and less fine dining, so to speak.
Once inside the red zone, the compression of the field becomes a strength to the defense and that misdirection is nullified for the longhorn offense.
Sark, once he shifts to a more "smash mouth" standard offense in the red zone will see more success. He needs more meat and potatoes in the red zone and less fine dining, so to speak.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:04 am to Whentheleveebreaks
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His offense works with speed and spreading teams out to get space. Harder to do in the red zone. His O line focuses on pass blocking more and will not get push in obvious running situations.
Ima give the benefit of the doubt about the run game being affected the last two seasons because our starting RB got hurt two years in a row. CJ Baxter gets in the endzone from the 1 yard line Friday.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:05 am to bamameister
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Fortunately for you, Manning and being creatures of hope will soon have you mouthing off about next year.
I am positive about Manning - I'm not going to lie. Because he is a Manning - which tells me he is a fierce competitor once his blood gets boiling.
I expect Arch and Sark to clash in the heat of battle. I expect Arch to say "frick that" to Sark's call when the fight is on. I expect Arch to bring the passion and "want to" to the team while Sark stares at his nice colorful play sheet.
So yeah, I expect Arch to make us better.
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