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Dual threat QB. Pendulum shifting?
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:11 pm
Although athletic and able to move in and around the pocket, the four remaining QB’s are not considered “dual threat”. CFB is always adapting. The defenses got lighter and faster with the explosion of RPO, LBs and safeties specifically. I feel like we are seeing more teams committing to a traditional run game because of this. It’s not the full blown fullback lead power, but more like the NFL pattern. PSU, ND and OSU (to a less extent) want to run first. Whether it’s a trend or just a dearth of high level dual threat QB’s remains to be seen.
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:18 pm to Bamafig
All I know is, QBs pretending to pass sending all WRs on go-routes then designed scramble is the worst aspect of football.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:19 pm to Bamafig
Then somebody needs to LANK then so they can start practicing handoffs and getting under center.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:24 pm to EauxZark Tiger
Give me a QB that can pass first any day of the week. I got RBs that can run....My QB only runs if the play breaks down. The most dangerous person on the field is an accurate passer that can shred a defense..Run first QBs usually get exposed when they are forced to pass against more elite defenses.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:28 pm to Bamafig
Spoiler:
NCAA Defense Ranking:
Ohio St #1
Texas #3
Penn St #4
Who cares what the QB does?
Defense wins championships.
Offense wins fanboys.
NCAA Defense Ranking:
Ohio St #1
Texas #3
Penn St #4
Who cares what the QB does?
Defense wins championships.
Offense wins fanboys.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:38 pm to Bamafig
A QB that is elusive is still game breaking
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:39 pm to MtVernon
Perhaps a running offense gives their D more rest and more time of possession leading to better defense stats. Hope I didn’t spoil your spoiler.
A good run game travels just like a good defense.
A good run game travels just like a good defense.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:40 pm to Bamafig
Everyone outside of Leach wants to be able to run the ball. It’s safer and keeps you balanced.
Running QB are for 1 of 2 reasons:
1) you are undertalented and need the extra blocker in the run game and you can’t find a competent passer
2) you find a freak that can pass and is athletic as hell.
Sometimes you think the freak athlete will improve but they don’t.
Running QB are for 1 of 2 reasons:
1) you are undertalented and need the extra blocker in the run game and you can’t find a competent passer
2) you find a freak that can pass and is athletic as hell.
Sometimes you think the freak athlete will improve but they don’t.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:44 pm to Bamafig
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Although athletic and able to move in and around the pocket, the four remaining QB’s are not considered “dual threat”. CFB is always adapting. The defenses got lighter and faster with the explosion of RPO, LBs and safeties specifically. I feel like we are seeing more teams committing to a traditional run game because of this. It’s not the full blown fullback lead power, but more like the NFL pattern. PSU, ND and OSU (to a less extent) want to run first. Whether it’s a trend or just a dearth of high level dual threat QB’s remains to be seen.
Not sure what there is to shift, it's always been this way really.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:45 pm to JayAg
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A QB that is elusive is still game breaking
Generally can win games but not championships.
Like Manzel was good against Alabama in 2012, but got shut down by other good defenses like Florida and LSU.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:45 pm to Bamafig
I feel like Leonard is pretty much the new standard for what coaches want in what has become the new definition of DT
He's not a RB playing QB or a world class athlete, but he's athletic and durable enough to use his legs consistently and be very productive.
I do understand what you're saying TBH, but if a guy with 2000 yards on the ground 34 career rushing TDs isn't DT...
He's not a RB playing QB or a world class athlete, but he's athletic and durable enough to use his legs consistently and be very productive.
I do understand what you're saying TBH, but if a guy with 2000 yards on the ground 34 career rushing TDs isn't DT...
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:48 pm to HottyToddy7
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Everyone outside of Leach wants to be able to run the ball.
God bless Leach but an amputee can count how many championships he coached.
Defense.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:26 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
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designed scramble is the worst aspect of football.
It is when you can’t defend against it.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:44 pm to Bamafig
Dart was the perfect mixture. He could sling it really damn well but if he needed to run, he could bulldoze people too. Pass first but has the legs to hurt you too.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 7:22 am to Pettifogger
I feel the same about leonard. Only reason he isnt a dual threat is because he cant throw the deep ball. He is 100% a threat to run every play.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:02 am to Bamafig
What if the NCAA banned the shotgun snap. Mandating all snaps had to be taken under center. What would that do to the game?
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:04 am to MtVernon
quote:Same things win that always won.
Spoiler:
NCAA Defense Ranking:
Ohio St #1
Texas #3
Penn St #4
Who cares what the QB does?
Defense wins championships.
Offense wins fanboys.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:11 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
Any good coach will tell you he'd rather have the ball in the hands of his offense than his defense on the field. Scoring more points than the opponent wins games and controlling the ball to dictate the game is what wins. The saying "Defense wins championship" just doesn't hold water. Thats a smaller piece of the puzzle compared to than what the offense can do for you.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 8:12 am
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:27 am to 3down10
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Generally can win games but not championships.
8 of the last 20 championship QBs had 400+ rushing yards in that year. Several had nearly 1,000 or more
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:31 am to UFMatt
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What if the NCAA banned the shotgun snap. Mandating all snaps had to be taken under center. What would that do to the game?
Make the game even dumber, but football is always evolving.
In this scenario I could see the QB as a glorified holder who just shovels it to a "RB" to make the actual read/play.
We shouldn't really limit what the offense can do. I thought "addressing" hurry-up offenses was a mistake. Let people try things, let defenses catch up.
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