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Why did the supreme court allow unlimited transfers?

Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:24 am
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:24 am
I feel like most do on here: if the transfers were wrangled in it would improve a lot of the process.

At least at minimum mandate you have to sit a year if you transfer.

I'm assuming that can't ever be changed though because of the court ruling.

Why did they vote in favor of that in the first place?
Posted by HottyToddy7
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:25 am to
Something along the lines of limiting money making ability of players. (NIL)
Posted by KingSlayer
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:28 am to
Believe they went with the theory that every day students could transfer between institutions as long as they were in good academic standing without punishment or restriction, so how could you put any limitations on student athletes?
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:31 am to
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Why did the supreme court allow unlimited transfers?

because the NCAA was selectively granting waivers and weren't providing equal protection

I think they could have probably survived scrutiny if they just got rid of the waiver process and said all players had to sit out a year if they transferred (or graduated) but they, instead, caved to the TRO and got rid of all restrictions
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 9:33 am
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:31 am to
Revoke the scholarships of those making more than the scholarship itself from NIL money.
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:37 am to
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Revoke the scholarships of those making more than the scholarship itself from NIL money.


Ole Miss was ahead of the curve on this. A lot of early transfers were technically walk-ons.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:44 am to
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I think they could have probably survived scrutiny if they just got rid of the waiver process and said all players had to sit out a year if they transferred (or graduated) but they, instead, caved to the TRO and got rid of all restrictions



Completely fricking stupid.

If they just restricted the transfers this whole thing would be a lot more palatable.

Unlimited transfers is what makes it a circus.

I couldn't imagine being a head coach now a days.

Would be miserable.
Posted by BevoBucks
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:47 am to
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I couldn't imagine being a head coach now a days.

Would be miserable.
Sign me up for being miserable then. What other profession guarantees you generational wealth, even if you fail?
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:49 am to
Letting Justin Fields leave UGA and play immediately at Ohio State was the clincher. His people played the race card and the NCAA didn't want to deal with that being publicized in court... but his sister stayed at that racist institution

But once they let him go play, there was no way it was going to be upheld for anyone else.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:53 am to
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Sign me up for being miserable then. What other profession guarantees you generational wealth, even if you fail?



true
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:53 am to
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Letting Justin Fields leave UGA and play immediately at Ohio State was the clincher. His people played the race card and the NCAA didn't want to deal with that being publicized in court... but his sister stayed at that racist institution



I forgot about this
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:41 am to
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because the NCAA was selectively granting waivers and weren't providing equal protection



Basically the answer to any question of "why did a judge do X terrible thing to college football?" is "because the sport refused to be fair for so long that judges are punishing it."

Same goes for NiL, House Settlement, etc.

If amatuerism would have died with the BCS and players got on a payroll around that same time period we would be in a much better place. But college presidents wanted their cake and to eat to too so the judges smashed the cake in their faces.
Posted by NickPapageorgio
Yuma, AZ
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:47 am to
It's called freedom.

Move to China.
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:47 am to
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Letting Justin Fields leave UGA and play immediately at Ohio State was the clincher.


Shea Patterson hiring Tom Mars and Tom Mars publicly stating they'd sue the NCAA if Shea wasn't immediately eligible preceded this. You also had JT Daniels getting granted immediate eligibility every year for 4 years by doing the exact same thing, just not publicly. It was clear the NCAA was picking and choosing.

And before we lament about how tough coaches have it now, they played their role in this as well. One of the main arguments about restricting NIL opportunity was the fact that coaches and schools could severely limit what schools a player could transfer to on scholarship and there were no real checks or balances to this part of the process. Unlimited transfers seems like an overreaction but the power balance was completely shifted in the opposite direction for decades.
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:48 am to
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:23 pm to
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And before we lament about how tough coaches have it now, they played their role in this as well. One of the main arguments about restricting NIL opportunity was the fact that coaches and schools could severely limit what schools a player could transfer to on scholarship and there were no real checks or balances to this part of the process. Unlimited transfers seems like an overreaction but the power balance was completely shifted in the opposite direction for decades.



good point
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