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There's talk on this board that Milroe comes back because we're paying him 2.5 mil a year.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:00 am
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:00 am
Well my question is who would pay him? Who would pay a bad quarterback that kind of money to return? How does that work?
If the "collective" (whatever that collective might be) decided not to pay him, then why would he return? Is the collective contractually bound to pay him if he returns, or can the collective, in a manner of speaking simply remove him from payroll?
The fundamental question is this. If he returns, why does he have to be paid?
If the "collective" (whatever that collective might be) decided not to pay him, then why would he return? Is the collective contractually bound to pay him if he returns, or can the collective, in a manner of speaking simply remove him from payroll?
The fundamental question is this. If he returns, why does he have to be paid?
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:01 am to Pandy Fackler
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we're paying him 2.5 mil a year.
Lol.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:05 am to Master of Sinanju
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we're paying him 2.5 mil a year.
Lol.
Well this is the number that's been tossed around. I wouldn't know, but he's making something. So my question is why does he have to make anything at all if he returns? Where's the incentive if no one's paying him?
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:05 am to Pandy Fackler
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The fundamental question is this. If he returns, why does he have to be paid?
No the fundamental question is whether or not Deboer takes charge of this program after the Auburn game.
I get giving Milroe the reigns after being hired.
I get sticking with Milroe all season.
I get naming Sheridan OC after Grubbs went to Seattle.
I get all of those things because if he didn't, we would not be complaining about an 8-3 season, we would be 6-5.
So the fundamental question is not whether Milroe returns or is paid or whatever. The fundamental question is whether or not DeBoer would allow it while also making substantive changes to the staff.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:08 am to Pandy Fackler
I suppose it depends on what leverage he could bring from his teammates. Either pay me or we all leave. I'm old school and would hand them their walking papers but I understand the world we are in now. Everyone involved will try to protect their incomes.
Edit: There's also the potential message sent to recruits as well. We see it as logical and necessary and it is. They will see it as personal and likely steer towards what they percieve as stable, guaranteed money. Quite the minefield.
Edit: There's also the potential message sent to recruits as well. We see it as logical and necessary and it is. They will see it as personal and likely steer towards what they percieve as stable, guaranteed money. Quite the minefield.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 10:14 am
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:09 am to Ten Bears
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making substantive changes to the staff.
Very much needed.
That and more playmakers on offense.
Need to hit the portal.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 10:10 am
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:10 am to Ten Bears
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No the fundamental question is whether or not Deboer takes charge of this program after the Auburn game.
I get giving Milroe the reigns after being hired.
I get sticking with Milroe all season.
I get naming Sheridan OC after Grubbs went to Seattle.
I get all of those things because if he didn't, we would not be complaining about an 8-3 season, we would be 6-5.
So the fundamental question is not whether Milroe returns or is paid or whatever. The fundamental question is whether or not DeBoer would allow it while also making substantive changes to the staff.
As it relates to this topic. Neither of those are questions.
The question is who's paying Jalen Milroe and if he returns, do they still have to pay him? Do you know?
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:13 am to Bamadiver
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I suppose it depends on what leverage he could bring from his teammates. Either pay me or we all leave. I'm old school and would hand them their walking papers but I understand the world we are in now. Everyone involved will try to protect their incomes.
Yeah I really don't know how the "collective" works in all this. If the collective sees what most of us see in Jalen Milroe, then what sort of leverage can it apply to discourage him from returning?
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:17 am to Pandy Fackler
quote:I would love to see a "standard" NIL contract. From former players we know everyone has a base salary. We also know, if the players are telling the truth, that starter's representatives continually renegotiate as the season progresses. It's absolutely insane.
Yeah I really don't know how the "collective" works in all this.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:30 am to Pandy Fackler
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Well this is the number that's been tossed around.
I don't doubt the number. I laugh because it's ridiculous.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:30 am to Bamadiver
I’d love for someone with a lot of knowledge of NIL to explain this to me if I don’t have it right:
From what I understand, NIL is basically a business saying “we will pay you x amount to rep our brand”. That’s the innocent version of it.
Yea Alabama is our NIL collective. It basically facilitates NIL opportunities. Instead of waiting for businesses to approach the players, they engage athletes in NIL activities (think branding campaigns, community outreach, or content creation). I believe this is where some, if not all, schools get shady. They can choose to use collective funds to pay Jalen Milroe $1 million to do an autograph signing. They can offer a Ryan Williams $2 million if he signs because they can have him do a podcast, advertise branded apparel, or something similar. The collective is completely independent from the university as well and can choose who it pays what.
Is that right?
From what I understand, NIL is basically a business saying “we will pay you x amount to rep our brand”. That’s the innocent version of it.
Yea Alabama is our NIL collective. It basically facilitates NIL opportunities. Instead of waiting for businesses to approach the players, they engage athletes in NIL activities (think branding campaigns, community outreach, or content creation). I believe this is where some, if not all, schools get shady. They can choose to use collective funds to pay Jalen Milroe $1 million to do an autograph signing. They can offer a Ryan Williams $2 million if he signs because they can have him do a podcast, advertise branded apparel, or something similar. The collective is completely independent from the university as well and can choose who it pays what.
Is that right?
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:43 am to Pandy Fackler
He is projected as a too 10 draft pick. Lots more money there.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:44 am to AbSnopes
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He is projected as a too 10 draft pick.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:45 am to AbSnopes
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He is projected as a too 10 draft pick
The sanitation department doesn't have a draft. You just apply for a job.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:45 am to Pandy Fackler
Milroe should get an NIL deal with U-Haul.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:46 am to SPennington
quote:I believe that is correct. I also believe the supreme court's decision absolutely protects the athletes right to be compensated outside of the collectives. The cart completely passed the horse.
Is that right?
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:47 am to AbSnopes
Why does the media gaslight people into believing that Milroe is a top NFL prospect ? Anyone who has seen him play knows that he will not last long in the league. It’s utter insanity. And if we really are paying him $2.5 million I want a refund.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:48 am to AbSnopes
Canadian League?
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:48 am to Crimson Wraith
That loser wouldn’t start for the Birmingham Stallions at this point.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:48 am to SPennington
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I’d love for someone with a lot of knowledge of NIL to explain this to me if I don’t have it right:
From what I understand, NIL is basically a business saying “we will pay you x amount to rep our brand”. That’s the innocent version of it.
Yea Alabama is our NIL collective. It basically facilitates NIL opportunities. Instead of waiting for businesses to approach the players, they engage athletes in NIL activities (think branding campaigns, community outreach, or content creation). I believe this is where some, if not all, schools get shady. They can choose to use collective funds to pay Jalen Milroe $1 million to do an autograph signing. They can offer a Ryan Williams $2 million if he signs because they can have him do a podcast, advertise branded apparel, or something similar. The collective is completely independent from the university as well and can choose who it pays what.
Is that right?
I think you're probably about right, but there's alot of concern that Milroe is coming back. I don't share that concern because (from a layman's perspective) why would the collective continue to bankroll him if it sees what most of us see in him?
Returning may not be something he decides and to take it a step further, it may not be something CKD himself fully decides. Money talks, bullshite walks and if the money dries up for Milroe, where does that leave him?
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