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They gotta do something about the G5 rule…
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:20 pm
Wow what a flaw…
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:23 pm to themetalreb
If a 10-2 SEC or Big 10 team misses out because of it, those two will take their ball and leave in 2 years
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:27 pm to themetalreb
i’m okay with including a G5.. that isn’t the problem imo.. we need less byes or we need to change how byes are awarded
1 Oregon
8 Notre Dame vs 9 Miami
4 Penn State
5 Indiana vs 12 Boise State
3 Texas
6 BYU vs 11 Ole Miss
2 Ohio State
7 Tennessee vs 10 Alabama
Obviously Georgia would beat Boise, and I would prefer 14 or 16 teams, but the automatic byes for 4 CC doesn’t work.
1 Oregon
8 Notre Dame vs 9 Miami
4 Penn State
5 Indiana vs 12 Boise State
3 Texas
6 BYU vs 11 Ole Miss
2 Ohio State
7 Tennessee vs 10 Alabama
Obviously Georgia would beat Boise, and I would prefer 14 or 16 teams, but the automatic byes for 4 CC doesn’t work.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:30 pm to BigBro
Oregon vs Notre Dame
PSU vs Indiana
Texas vs Ole Miss
Ohio State vs TN/AL
Those are great games.. especially once Indiana gets demoted.
PSU vs Indiana
Texas vs Ole Miss
Ohio State vs TN/AL
Those are great games.. especially once Indiana gets demoted.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:30 pm to BigBro
quote:fricking bloodbath
6 BYU vs 11 Ole Miss
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:34 pm to themetalreb
Anything with AQ status is a flaw.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:38 pm to 3down10
Heard one of the TV sports guys propose the following: let the Group of 5 have their own separate playoff. Use some of the other bowls that have been around to stage it. That way someone in the Group of 5 will actually win a natty.
I agree that allowing a Group 5 member to take away a spot that belongs to a Power Four league is a huge flaw. Needs to be abolished in 2026; and the Group of Five needs to get busy and let their best teams compete for something meaningful.
I agree that allowing a Group 5 member to take away a spot that belongs to a Power Four league is a huge flaw. Needs to be abolished in 2026; and the Group of Five needs to get busy and let their best teams compete for something meaningful.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:49 pm to themetalreb
The biggest flaw is the absurdly unbalanced new super-conferences.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 1:35 am
Posted on 11/13/24 at 1:34 am to Henry Jones Jr
I agree. They couldn’t compete in this conference. The system needs work.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 1:44 am to themetalreb
It’s worse than that. The Big 12 is only marginally better than the G5.
Notre Dame needs to told to pick a conference or they’re out. Playing the cupcake schedule they do with the exception of 1 or 2 at the most semi-decent teams isn’t going to cut it.
As was said, it’s only going to take a couple years for the SEC and the Big 10 to blow it up. Less if we get some real mass chaos and a 1 loss Indiana as well as a 2 loss Georgia/Texas/Etc gets left out.
There is a very realistic scenario out there that could put A&M AND LSU in the SECCG. If that happens you could have 2 loss
Texas
Georgia
Alabama
The stinking Vols
Ole Miss
With 2 slots to fill there. You could hear the screaming from space if that happens.
Notre Dame needs to told to pick a conference or they’re out. Playing the cupcake schedule they do with the exception of 1 or 2 at the most semi-decent teams isn’t going to cut it.
As was said, it’s only going to take a couple years for the SEC and the Big 10 to blow it up. Less if we get some real mass chaos and a 1 loss Indiana as well as a 2 loss Georgia/Texas/Etc gets left out.
There is a very realistic scenario out there that could put A&M AND LSU in the SECCG. If that happens you could have 2 loss
Texas
Georgia
Alabama
The stinking Vols
Ole Miss
With 2 slots to fill there. You could hear the screaming from space if that happens.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 1:46 am to ht1950
I can't even believe 80% of G5's are still financially afloat
some of them are one booster away from being completely bankrupt IMO - like if the proverbial Gordon Gecko came in and raided that one booster's mini-dynasty and carved it up, the G5 depending on that guy would need to pack it up and move to FCS.
some of them are one booster away from being completely bankrupt IMO - like if the proverbial Gordon Gecko came in and raided that one booster's mini-dynasty and carved it up, the G5 depending on that guy would need to pack it up and move to FCS.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 1:58 am to Harry Rex Vonner
...flip side of that, I'm glad that human beings of any stripe do want to be upwardly motivated and competitive
That's the American way
politically speaking though, universities are charging students outrageous tuition and fees and et cetera, then the students default on loans, then the taxpayers end up footing the bill - that situation is growing
That's the American way
politically speaking though, universities are charging students outrageous tuition and fees and et cetera, then the students default on loans, then the taxpayers end up footing the bill - that situation is growing
Posted on 11/13/24 at 5:10 am to themetalreb
I’ve been saying for 20 years that the smaller D1A schools need their own deal. Ridiculous to think Toledo should have to compete for the same title as Alabama.
Give them their own deal, then create conference challenges within the P4, this would give you a lot more data on which conference is the strongest and awarding playoff spots.
Give them their own deal, then create conference challenges within the P4, this would give you a lot more data on which conference is the strongest and awarding playoff spots.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 5:32 am to ht1950
Power schools shouldn’t even play a G5 school. We have the super conferences but how many good games are on each week? Horrible value for the fans.
Do it like euro soccer and let teams work they’re way up/down based on record.
Do it like euro soccer and let teams work they’re way up/down based on record.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 5:33 am
Posted on 11/13/24 at 6:55 am to themetalreb
I think Boise St would man-handle BYU.
I think Conferences should get an auto bid, but not auto Top-4.
I think Conferences should get an auto bid, but not auto Top-4.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:18 am to wm72
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The biggest flaw is the absurdly unbalanced new super-conferences.
Today is November 13th. Indiana has still not played a team with a winning record. I don't understand how you can possibly justify giving them a playoff spot based on their body of work. The human element needs to be removed from the decision making process. There's too much conference politicking involved and too much money at stake.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 7:20 am
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:25 am to themetalreb
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Wow what a flaw
It's a DEI football call, but a carryover from the NY6 . It's going nowhere
Does suck that a BYU team (as Big 12 is essentially G5 material now) and a Boise St team are likely putting out a quality FBS real P2 team.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:29 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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flip side of that, I'm glad that human beings of any stripe do want to be upwardly motivated and competitive
That's the American way
politically speaking though, universities are charging students outrageous tuition and fees and et cetera, then the students default on loans, then the taxpayers end up footing the bill - that situation is growing
Sir, this is a playoff thread.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:31 am to themetalreb
The PAC 12 champion could possibly make the playoff if Boise State loses a game but they might keep Boise State over them even with 2 losses.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:35 am to Gator Fever
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PAC 12
Another G5 quality conference
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