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Ou fans - RRS QB question...

Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:57 am
Posted by TX Tea
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:57 am
I'm thinking that there is about 70% chance that the ou offense runs into trouble and Coach V is looking for a spark. I know you don't think it will happen, but for the sake of argument just humor me, and go down this path for a moment.
Does he pull Hawkins and go back to Jackson Arnold? Or has that ship sailed? Or, does he throw Casey Thompson into the fire? He actually has Red River experience, and may be a better option. What say you sooner fans?
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 4:49 pm
Posted by gaius julius bevo
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Does he pull Hawkins and go back to Jackson Arnold? Or has that ship sailed? Or, does he throw Casey Thompson into the fire? He actually has Red River experience and may be a better option. What say you sooner fans?


I actually watched some Sooner gossip videos discussing this very point. Whether they actually know anything or not is to be determined, but these were the points I harvested.

1) There has been some effort to keep Jackson Arnold engaged as the backup, but it is a certainty he is transferring at the end of the year, and OU will ride with Hawkins all the way unless an injury situation occurs.

2) Casey Thompson is focused on trying to become a college coach. Doubtful he sees anything meaningful action.
Posted by Gimme Vaughn
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:04 am to
Outside of an injury to Hawkins, i don't see JA coming back in. Hawkins decision making is so much better than JA. Arnold had been a turnover machine in all of his starts. I dont think sitting on the bench has changed that.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:06 am to
Short of injury there is zero chance he pulls Hawkins.

Now what about Ewers? Will Sark pull him in favor of the anointed one if things look bleak?
Posted by TX Tea
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:09 am to
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Short of injury there is zero chance he pulls Hawkins.

Now what about Ewers? Will Sark pull him in favor of the anointed one if things look bleak?

I think some fans may be yelling for that should he get a case of the yips.
Posted by gaius julius bevo
Member since Jul 2021
653 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:12 am to
Ewers can't come out with the ridiculous turnovers like in last year's game. That said, Manning isn't a perfect substitute for what Ewers brings in the short and medium passing game. Manning is capable of beating OU, but the playcalling surely changes in he is in the game instead of Ewers while it is undecided.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:21 am to
There's no "certainty" he's transferring. It wouldn't surprise anybody but there's no "certainty".
Posted by TX Tea
Member since Sep 2023
378 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:00 pm to
I was at the game last year and I remember at least 2 separate occasions we had a receiver running wide open on a busted coverage but Ewers either checked down or threw the ball away running from a little pressure. Those are the moments I think Manning takes advantage of. But he still has lots to learn and has not been baptized by a good defense yet.
Posted by gaius julius bevo
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:05 pm to
quote:


I was at the game last year and I remember at least 2 separate occasions we had a receiver running wide open on a busted coverage but Ewers either checked down or threw the ball away running from a little pressure. Those are the moments I think Manning takes advantage of. But he still has lots to learn and has not been baptized by a good defense yet.


Manning is a better deep ball thrower than Ewers. His play action skills would be ideal for the 2000s games when OU would load the box and dare the Texas QB to beat them over the top. On the other hand, I think Ewers helps the running backs more on every play with his better reads in the RPO plays.

I have no idea how either coach will scheme this game, but it looks to be very exciting.
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:25 pm to
Hawkins is probably one of the fastest QBs in CFB right now if not THE fastest, and has an elite arm. He needed some reps but is basically in no danger of being replaced. Hes the future at OU, they have known that since spring ball.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 2:26 pm
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17278 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:46 pm to
If Casey Thompson comes off the bench and beats Texas..
fml
Posted by Soonerd78
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:48 pm to
I don’t see Casey Thompson playing at all this year …. Arnold would come in . Hawkins is OUs starter . No one can say anyone won’t get pulled because OU has done it 3 years in a row and won 2.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17278 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:52 pm to
I think Sark should play both this week.

Ewers starts
Series 1 - scripted plays for Ewers
Series 2 - regular series

Arch comes in
Series 3 - scripted plays

Ewers plays rest of the game

Next game.. Rinse and repeat.

This is Quinn's team, but Arch can add value without a QB controversy.
Posted by TX Tea
Member since Sep 2023
378 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:57 pm to
Arch would also create a qb controversy by scoring TD's when he is in there.
Posted by Naked Bootleg
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:57 pm to
My thoughts:

If the pressure cooker makes Hawkins do stupid things, I doubt he'd throw JA out there. At least I wouldn't. I mean why would you, when you have a very experienced vet in Thompson who has actually played well in this game before?
Posted by BoomerFNSooner
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Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 2:59 pm to
Hawkins has to have 3-4 turnovers in the first half.....but OU is still in the game for Arnold to get a chance. Arnold is gone, unless Hawkins has some catastophic injury.
Posted by Naked Bootleg
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

Ewers can't come out with the ridiculous turnovers like in last year's game. That said, Manning isn't a perfect substitute for what Ewers brings in the short and medium passing game. Manning is capable of beating OU, but the playcalling surely changes in he is in the game instead of Ewers while it is undecided.


From what I've seen, Arch has some wheels that Ewers doesn't necessarily have. I don't think Sark would throw his young QB out there and expect him to run many designed QB run plays, but Venables defenses (and pretty much everyone else's) sometimes have difficulty containing true run threat QBs.

If Ewers exited with an injury, that would be interesting dynamic to watch.
Posted by Naked Bootleg
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

unless Hawkins has some catastophic injury.


you better issue some sort of reverse-jinx now, my man
Posted by BoomerFNSooner
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Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

unless Hawkins has some catastophic injury.


you better issue some sort of reverse-jinx now, my man


I kicked a fat kid. We are good.
Posted by Naked Bootleg
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Member since Jul 2021
2693 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:51 pm to
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