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Highest end of year ranking for a team that lost to Vanderbilt?

Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:22 am
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:22 am
Trying to figure this out. Will return when I have a good answer, at least one for the 20th century. According to Chatgtp it's never happened, but I'll see what I can find.

Update: in the last 60 years Vandy has won 75 SEC games.

No one in the past 60 years has lost to Vandy and gone on to win 10 games or finish in the top 12.

So... not good.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:34 am to
2016 Tennessee finished #22 in the AP.

1991 Georgia finished #17 in the AP.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 10:51 am
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11637 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:38 am to
Auburn was #8 when Vandy beat them in 1955.


I'm not looking anymore.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:40 am to
Who cares. Move on.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:11 am to
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So... not good.


Does the Vandy loss count for MORE than just one loss? Would be kind of difficult to leave an 11-1 team out of the playoffs that's only loss is to Vandy, right?
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
1952 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:13 am to
History would indicate that an SEC team that can't be Vandy is going to drop at least 3 more games.

I don't think Bama goes 8-4, but I wouldn't think a 10-2 Alabama team is a lock for the playoffs.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 11:25 am
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7667 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:05 pm to
Somebody please explain to me why losing to Vandy means BAMA will lose to USC, tenner, Mizzou, LSU, OU, Barn?

None of these teams do what Vandy does.
LSU, Mizzou, and tenner run pro style offenses like uga. BAMA handled uga fine. I know I know, mUh SeCoNd HaLf Of uGa!!!

OU's qb is mobile but can't really throw.
Barn's qbs are good for at least 2 TOs.

I'm struggling to see where Vandy's success against BAMA's D correlates to success for the other teams on our schedule. They aren't all installing the triple option to play BAMA. And even if they are it'll take a perfect game aided by timely penalties, and turnovers to get it done. And now we're talking about HISTORY of teams that lost to Vandy?? Christ.

BuT wE LoSt To VaNdY!!!
It doesn't mean shite excpet some of you clowns are just butthurt and don't remember what losing 2 games in a row feels like. Your football history doesn't go back any further than 2005.

This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26442 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:11 pm to
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Somebody please explain to me why losing to Vandy means BAMA will lose to USC, tenner, Mizzou, LSU, OU, Barn?

None of these teams do what Vandy does.


Agreed that Vandy's offense is different than any other team Bama faces this year so you could take solace that maybe this was just a bad matchup that doesn't reflect on prospects in the rest of Bama's games.

However, what has me concerned about the rest of those games is that Bama's defensive staff was grossly outcoached by Vanderbilt. A team with Bama's personnel on defense may struggle against Vanderbilt, but pre-game prep and in-game adjustments should eventually do something to slow Vandy down and that was non-existent. I think we are concerned we are going to get outcoached by a lot of SEC staffs, at least on the defensive side of the ball, regardless of scheme.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:18 pm to
I agree that people are getting way too hung up on the Vandy name. Its pretty clear that this isn't your dad's Vandy team. That isn't to say that they are great, or that we should have lost to them, but they are good enough to catch a really good team in a trap team and pull off a victory, as they showed on Saturday. They run an offense that often times gives power 5 programs fits.

What most are concerned about is the woeful unpreparedness for Vandy's offense, and the inability to make any kind of effective adjustments to what they were doing. The coaches nor the players respected Vandy, and Vandy whipped their arse.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 12:20 pm
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
1952 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:21 pm to
3 SEC teams have scored at least 27 points in every game.

Alabama, Texas, and Vanderbilt.

That said, you don't fricking lose to Vanderbilt when you're the #1 team in the country.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:25 pm to
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Who cares. Move on.


Seriously
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7793 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:27 pm to
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but pre-game prep


Does Bama have anyone on scout team that can replicate what a veteran option qb can do like Pavia did? Sure, you can show formations and what not, but actually do it at game speed with a qb that made EVERY correct read and pretty much every throw. It's almost impossible to prepare for when all other 11 teams look almost the exact same.

You're talking about preparing for one team that runs a totally different scheme in one week when you just took two weeks to prepare for Georgia.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
7276 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:28 pm to
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That said, you don't fricking lose to Vanderbilt when you're the #1 team in the country.


Well they did. Now what? Ready to fire the DC? OC? Milroe? Moore? HC?

Or get over it and enjoy the rest of the season?
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
6036 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:28 pm to
He should have called Georgia State
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
14500 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:28 pm to
Mumbo jumbo.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7667 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:29 pm to
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I think we are concerned we are going to get outcoached by a lot of SEC staffs, at least on the defensive side of the ball, regardless of scheme


Do you think Vandy's coach is a good coach? Do you think their players play with pride and believe they can win? Do you think that Vandy has had this game circled on the calendar?

If the answers to those questions are "No" then that's just as bad as believing all BAMA has to do to win is show up.

What's lost on people in my opinion is how WELL Vandy played. How well they were coached. How strictly they stuck to their game plan.

Any given Saturday. That's true more now than ever in the history of college football. Losing puts everything into perspective.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7667 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:31 pm to
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What most are concerned about is the woeful unpreparedness for Vandy's offense


I agree. I believe what the staff should've done was taken the off week, the uga week and the Vandy week to prepare for Vandy. Forget uga. What they should've done is had this team super prepared for Vandy so the fans aren't embarrassed by losing to Vandy.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26442 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Does Bama have anyone on scout team that can replicate what a veteran option qb can do like Pavia did? Sure, you can show formations and what not, but actually do it at game speed with a qb that made EVERY correct read and pretty much every throw. It's almost impossible to prepare for when all other 11 teams look almost the exact same.

You're talking about preparing for one team that runs a totally different scheme in one week when you just took two weeks to prepare for Georgia.


I am aware it is a very difficult scenario. But I do except Alabama to have a coaching staff up to the task to at least get a struggle win in this scenario. I'm willing to chalk it up to a once in a blue moon situation with Vandy, option attack, trap game, etc; but I have serious concerns about the lack of adjustments being made by this defensive staff. Opposing teams are figuring out what works and then just hammering us with it over and over as we do the same thing and look helpless. It's concerning.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7793 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:45 pm to
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He should have called Georgia State


For what? A practice game mid week?
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7793 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:49 pm to
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Opposing teams are figuring out what works and then just hammering us with it over and over as we do the same thing and look helpless. It's concerning.


One half against Georgia where they played 4 down football to play catch up? And an anomaly game against Vandy equals opposing teams hammering. Geez!
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