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Florida Coaches with an SEC Title?

Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:32 pm
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:32 pm
Besides Steve Spurrier and Urban Meyer, which Florida coaches have won a SEC title? Are there any?
Posted by Summer of Jimbo
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:36 pm to
None. They have not won any other conference titles unless it was a SIAA or SoCon one back in the day .
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:43 pm to
So why is Florida considered such a premiere program?
Posted by Oklahomey
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:45 pm to
Despite what happened, Galen Hall in 1984.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:47 pm to
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So why is Florida considered such a premiere program?

Because schools aren’t judged on their history excluding two coaches.
Posted by Summer of Jimbo
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:56 pm to
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So why is Florida considered such a premiere program?


They are pretty much a top 25 team of all time in wins, national championships and heismans?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:57 pm to
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Because schools aren’t judged on their history excluding two coaches


They should be. It tells you whether a program is consistently successful, or if they just had two great coache.

Florida is not the type of program you can just plug an average coach in and have success. No, they need a great coach to have high level success. If they hadn’t hit the coaching lottery with Spurrier, there would have been no Meyer. And without them, Florida would have had less success in the SEC than Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Arkansas and even South Carolina.

Spurrier completely changed the perception of Florida. But he didn’t change Florida.

I point to their long list of fired coaches that failed to meet their expectations as proof.



Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:11 pm to
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They are pretty much a top 25 team of all time in wins, national championships and heismans?


There are 65 power 4 teams in the country. They are barely in the top third of those teams. That does not make a program a premiere program. And that was with Spurrier and Meyer.

Among SEC teams, they are tied with Auburn with an all time win percentage of .625. That ranks behind Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas. Oklahoma, and LSU. So they are tied for 7th in the SEC and Texas A&M is nipping at their heels. Auburn will pull ahead of them this season and Florida will be alone in 8th place. And at the rate they are going they will be 9th in two or three years.

So, what makes them a premiere program again?
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 9:17 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:13 pm to
Florida football is basically Duke basketball.

Lots of program prestige from a coaching tenure or two and not much else.
Posted by Summer of Jimbo
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:21 pm to
Their grip is slipping. When Georgia slides again under a Richt style coach and wins one every 25 years we can say the same about them and Clemson and Miami and every team not named Alabama or Ohio State or whoever .
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:24 pm to
Well…they also won’t be getting their first undefeated season this year.
Posted by borotiger
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:27 pm to
Excluding Bryant and Saban...
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:32 pm to
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Spurrier completely changed the perception of Florida. But he didn’t change Florida.
I played under Charlie Pell and Galen Hall and if it wasn’t for the NCAA, UF would have won several more titles. Charlie Pell was a winner. He won a championship at Clemson and the ncaa went hunting him there. He turned a horrible UF team around and was set to win a title until the ncaa went witch hunting again. Our probations opened the door for Miami and FSU to come to prominence.

People would like to forget the Pell years but he more than anyone changed the perception of UF. He brought in the big money Gators, expanded the stadium and most of all recruited his arse off. He brought in big time players that we used to never get.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:35 pm to
I'm shocked that a Bama fan who still counts their vacated wins doesn't recognize our vacated SEC title.
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 9:35 pm
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:36 pm to
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There are 65 power 4 teams in the country. They are barely in the top third of those teams.

Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:38 pm to
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So why is Florida considered such a premiere program?
How many schools have won a title since the 90s, 2000s? The list is not very long. Now maybe you want to go back further and include, Princeton, Harvard, Yale and Minnesota?
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:39 pm to
We're 15th on Winsipedia and 12th per the AP and Coaches. He's getting his troll on.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:39 pm to
There was no SEC champion in 1984. UF was ineligible. Title should have gone to LSU.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:40 pm to
If UF didn't win the SEC in 1984 then LSU didn't a single game in 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015. Hypocrite.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:43 pm to
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So, what makes them a premiere program again?


I don’t think anyone is arguing Florida is a traditional power. I think you get dubbed “premiere program” when you accomplish big feats that only a handful of programs achieve. Pretty much Bama is only team to pull of bigger highs than Florida in the last cumulative 30 years. (3 national titles and 8 SEC titles)

The program was pretty irrelevant until the population boom of the state directly impacted all Florida schools beginning to compete for national championships consistently in the post modern era (1973).

Since the most competitive era in college football began, Florida has done pretty well. Idk what the exact win percentage is but it’s gotta be pretty high. Florida has been a very good program the last 40 years with flashes of historical greatness that few other programs have touched since the most competitive era of football began.

The pioneers of football should be revered and respected but acting like football from the 1950s is relevant today is a bit of a stretch. Most people alive today see Florida as a winning program and not the mid tier program you’re insinuating they are.
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