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re: DeBoer was right. Athletes can play amid sexual misconduct inquiries
Posted on 4/19/24 at 11:38 am to TN Tygah
Posted on 4/19/24 at 11:38 am to TN Tygah
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You’re missing the point idiot. The question isn’t whether it’s against the rules it’s whether it was the right thing to do. Joe Paterno did not break any rules, but it wasn’t the right thing to do and what Sandusky did was basically one of the worst things you can possibly do, and Paterno only did the bare minimum. There’s a reason Paterno didn’t wind up in prison.
So they took his statue down and his name off buildings "idiot." It was morally reprehensible when it was realized he knew about the raping of children and did nothing. He admitted he should have done more. No kidding. Legally, his responsibility dies when he does. It's hard to prosecute dead people. Even OJ is beyond the law at this point.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 11:39 am to Shaft Williams
Buzz WIlliams disagrees, which is why Julius Marble didn't play last season.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 11:43 am to TN Tygah
An assistant coach came to Paterno with allegations that another assistant coach was sexually abusing underaged boys there on campus and it was an ongoing concern that law enforcement was not aware of. At best Paterno ignored it. At worst he tried to cover it up.
This is not equivalent in any way to an adult female accusing another adult male of sexual improprieties, reporting it to law enforcement, and the school and coaches letting the justice system dictate their response. The two are not close to equivalent.
Even you can’t be stupid enough to think they are.
This is not equivalent in any way to an adult female accusing another adult male of sexual improprieties, reporting it to law enforcement, and the school and coaches letting the justice system dictate their response. The two are not close to equivalent.
Even you can’t be stupid enough to think they are.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 12:01 pm to TN Tygah
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You’re missing the point idiot. The question isn’t whether it’s against the rules it’s whether it was the right thing to do. Joe Paterno did not break any rules, but it wasn’t the right thing to do and what Sandusky did was basically one of the worst things you can possibly do, and Paterno only did the bare minimum. There’s a reason Paterno didn’t wind up in prison.
Who cares now. He’s the Bama coach. These things are expected. I’d rather him play rapists than intentionally injure multiple starting QB’s, but both are probably going to happen en masse. It’s just what Bama does.
Paterno either covered up or ignored the reports, he didn't report it to the police. Sandusky went to prison only after the information he knew became public, and was allowed to be around kids for years after.
The NCAA went too far with the entire thing searching for PR juice and trying to act like they were somehow the justice system. But I don't blame Penn St for removing the statue.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 12:19 pm to bamameister
They put his statue back up
Posted on 4/19/24 at 12:51 pm to TN Tygah
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Paterno was right too. Not comparing the actual crimes, I’m just saying, Paterno did everything by the book and didn’t technically break any rules.
Exactly.
No charges were filed! What do you expect him to be - Sherlock Holmes?! Innocent until proven guilty!
Posted on 4/19/24 at 12:52 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Buzz WIlliams disagrees, which is why Julius Marble didn't play last season.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 12:54 pm to Hugh McElroy
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No charges were filed! What do you expect him to be - Sherlock Holmes?! Innocent until proven guilty!
I expect him to be dead. Case settled. What do you expect?
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:06 pm to Hugh McElroy
Buzz sounds like a good man, unlike this deboer character
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:09 pm to Gham
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Buzz sounds like a good man, unlike this deboer character
And that's all that really matters. Now let's get that post count up for even more profound thoughts.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:27 pm to Hugh McElroy
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No charges were filed! What do you expect him to be - Sherlock Holmes?! Innocent until proven guilty!
Penn State Officials Charged with Failure to Report
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Penn State fired Curley and Schultz after prosecutors charged them with failure to report the alleged sex abuse and lying to a grand jury. Today's court hearing was a preliminary hearing for Curley and Schultz.
Penn State’s AD and Vice President, who were supposed to be responsible for reporting sexual assaults at Penn State, were fired after prosecutors charged them with failure to report the sexual assault charges brought to them.
But you are correct, Paterno was not charged. He did actually report that “something” had happened, though it does appear he tried to downplay the severity of it. The fact that he did eventually report it to his bosses, who were ultimately responsible for acting on it, is what saved him from criminal charges. The fact that it stopped at their desks is why they were charged.
It is pretty clear from your posts that you have no idea how schools and athletic departments, despite it being available to read on the internet, handle sexual assault allegations. Maybe you should sit the rest of this thread out and go read up on it. Or you can just keep making things up.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 5:34 pm to Shaft Williams
There should always be a team vote.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 5:35 pm to Hback
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Hback
Just RA'd you for hurting my feelings and downvoting me
Guilty Until Proven Innocent Is The Way!
Posted on 4/19/24 at 5:38 pm to captdalton
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An assistant coach came to Paterno with allegations that another assistant coach was sexually abusing underaged boys there on campus and it was an ongoing concern that law enforcement was not aware of. At best Paterno ignored it. At worst he tried to cover it up.
This is not equivalent in any way to an adult female accusing another adult male of sexual improprieties, reporting it to law enforcement, and the school and coaches letting the justice system dictate their response. The two are not close to equivalent.
Tell me you’re a Bama fan without telling me. You don’t ignore something like that, ever, especially when it comes to children. I don’t care if he followed the rules. I do not understand why you think it’s OK to ignore something like that, when a coach comes up to you and says he witnessed someone on your staff abusing a child. Objectively speaking, that isn’t OK. But I don’t expect you to have a moral compass. If Jerry Sandusky verbally admitted in detail what he did to those kids and did it with a smile on his face, but got out on a technicality and wanted to be a defensive analyst you wouldn’t bat an eye. Bama fans, everyone.
You’re right, it’s not equivalent. It involved children.
Edit: as much as I don’t really like your posts, I realize I misread it.
Still think there’s plenty more of this to come for Bama, but, hey. Only time will tell.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 6:50 pm
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