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Give teachers a raise....Nah.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:41 pm
I think they are paid pretty well for what they do. They get off at 3pm. They have long holidays off and the whole summer! They chose that career. Quit crying about this. They have great benefits too.
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:46 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
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They get off at 3pm.
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:48 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
Give them performance based pay Fire as necessary
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:49 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
Are you talking about Biden saying that we should give the teachers a raise? I didn’t think the federal government paid the teachers anyway. I think he was just pandering to his ignorant base.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:52 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
Teachers grade papers, make lesson plans, pull bus duty, prepare tests, grade tests, all after hours. I have no problem with them making more. I just don’t want federal strings attached.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:53 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
They don’t get off at 3. They do get great benefits. I’m okay with them being paid well if they do their job well. They can have a big impact on our future. Most of us have a teacher that influenced us greatly.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:57 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
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Give teachers a raise....Nah.
1. You're just trying to stir the pot with this one.
2. However, that doesn't mean you're wrong. You're not.
3. Assuming we're talking about public school teachers here, we're talking about government workers. Anybody takes a government job, they do so for job security, holidays, and benefits, and teachers make out superbly on all three of those metrics. No one ever takes a (non-elected) government job to get rich, or even to make top dollar. Making less money but getting more in terms of time off and benefits is part of the trade-off and everyone should know that going in.
4. Public school teaching is a part time job. What do they get, like 16 weeks off during the year? Something like that. Who else that's considered full time gets that kind of time off?
And research has shown that they are no more likely to take work home than their middle management private sector counterparts, nor are they required to do more in the way of seminars or other trainings (contrary to what they all will claim.)
So you're not wrong. But you're still pot stirring.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:58 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
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I think they are paid pretty well for what they do
Teachers get paid shite. I won't make the argument that they deserve anything more, but they do get paid pretty terribly in most parts of the country. As far as what they do, they are stretched really thin. I can't fathom why anyone would want to be a teacher.
- More and more students forced into larger class sizes. Teaching 30,40 + kids at once is absurd for most topics.
- Parents are increasingly a fricking nightmare.
- Students are increasingly a fricking nightmare.
- Students who never pass a single class just coast through the system so you have high schoolers operating at a grade school level fricking up class for everyone else.
- Illegals being dumped into classrooms who speak no English and have never been in school before fricking up class for everyone.
- Absurd amount of bureaucracy they are forced to navigate in their jobs.
If teaching was like it was 40-50 years ago, it's fair pay. Now they're getting shafted, but since the good people are leaving and blue haired nutjobs are taking the spotlight people have no sympathy for what the group as a whole goes through.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:07 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
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They have great benefits too.
Greatest benefits of any profession out there.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:09 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
I've said this several times, but I am totally against any teacher salary increases until they ditch their public sector union.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:14 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
The fact that the number of students pursuing a degree in education is rapidly declining tells me their compensation isn’t enough. I’m a big believer in free market economics.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:25 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
4carens thinks they should make more than professional football players
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:34 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
All they do is indoctrination not teaching
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:48 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
I have been a teacher for the better part of three decades. I don't need a raise. I need for parents to support my efforts to make sure that their children learn. The best outcomes are achieved when parents and teachers work as a team.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:53 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
before they get any raises, they must first sign a pledge not to sleep with students.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:35 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
I’m engaged to a teacher and you can’t be more wrong. Schools and administrators pander to shitty parents and don’t support the teachers. They don’t want to hurt shite For Brains Little Johnny’s feelings. Teachers are expected to rear children these days because the parents don’t want to do it….and then there is the bullshite of dealing with unqualified administrators who got their Masters from Acapella University
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:45 pm to Cajun Tiger 4
First he wants to pay off student debt and now he wants to make costs of education go higher via increased salaries for teachers? Da fuq?
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:18 am to Cajun Tiger 4
And they can retire at 52 with huge arse pension until they die. Which is in fact unfunded and unsustainable.
This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 12:29 am
Posted on 3/11/24 at 5:47 am to Cajun Tiger 4
This would go over better on the OT.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 5:49 am to Cajun Tiger 4
quote:If it improves quality, I'd be all for it. The problem though is that all too often "Give the teachers a raise" translates to equal money allotted across the board, regardless of performance or effort.
I think they are paid pretty well for what they do. They get off at 3pm. They have long holidays off and the whole summer! They chose that career. Quit crying about this. They have great benefits too.
So a math teacher notoriously focused on woke ideology, social justice, and drag queen presentations while his class badly underperforms in math is given the same money as his colleague who's been voted teacher of the year 5 successive times.
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