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re: Would you rather draft??

Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by Lucado
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:50 pm to
Last mock I saw had MHJ and Nabers going at picks 4 and 5 in the first round and Bowers at around 15. They should all be good NFL players.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:44 pm to
Kiper has Nabers at 9 and Bowers at 10.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:36 pm to
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Brock Bowers is 6'4", 240


Is what Georgia list him at. He is probably closer to 6’3” with a playing weight around 220 lbs.

Most teams in the top 10 have bigger needs and return on there investment fast and that might be why a lot of Mock drafts have him falling. He will need to go to a team that is a passing offense and already have good WR’s. The Chargers at #5 would be a good fit, but they are probably going with Napers. If he makes it past #10 there will be teams like the Bengals trying to trade up for him. Raiders at #13 or the Colts at #15 is probably where he lands unless there is a trade. If there is receivers slide, or there is a run on WR’s he could fall to the Bengals at #18.

Jets at #11 have Conklin
Vikings at #12 have Hockenson

Bengals trade with the Vikings makes the most sense, but a lot of this could change when the Bears trade Fields.

There will be good TE option’s that will fall to late 2nd and early 3rd rounds because of how many good WR’s are in the draft.

Bowers is also young and his rookie contract will be up when he is 25. Kelce’s rookie contract was up when he was 28.
Posted by JayAg
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:42 pm to
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He will need to go to a team that is a passing offense and already have good WR’s. The


I completely disagree with this. He can excel in a run heavy, TE heavy system that likes play action. Multiple teams that run that system have success in college and the pros. Hell, Michigan just won a NC without slinging it. Not every offense is an air raid imo, that needs 3 top WRs to win games.

It really depends on what type of offenses teams run.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:27 pm to
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completely disagree with this. He can excel in a run heavy, TE heavy system that likes play action. Multiple teams that run that system have success in college and the pros


His draft grade is really good. His 3 worst grades were in run blocking, contested catch rating, and drop rating. He might have graded better in all 3 if he would have been healthy all season. I think the Bears could pick him at #9, but they will need to surround Caleb Williams with a lot of other things in free agency or trades. They probably learned their lesson not giving Fields better protection and WR’s to throw to.

Contested catches: 2 (tied for 73rd)
Contested catch rate: 22.2% (~25th percentile
Average depth of target: 6.5 (tied for 115th).
Drop rate: 5.1% (~50th percentile)
Receiving grade of 86.7 (~100th percentile)
Yards per route run: 2.65 (~100th percentile)
Run block grade: 63.0 (~75th percentile)
Missed tackles forced: 18 (2nd overall)
Yards after catch: 8.7 (tied for 6th most)

He is the #1 receiving TE in the draft. He probably won’t be on the field on a lot of running plays his 1st few years in the league except for RPO’s. I hope the Chiefs trade Sneed to the Vikings for the 11th pick and then they can get him to work with Kelce and Mahomes. That would be a perfect fit for him playing with Mahomes and Kelce.


This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 9:34 pm
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 11:33 am to
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Is what Georgia list him at. He is probably closer to 6’3” with a playing weight around 220 lbs.


I don't see a reason why people think it would be false unless you think all players are listed an inch taller and 20 pounds heavier than they really are.

He was listed as 6-4, 225 as a prospect out of high school. Sounds like you think he lost weight in college which sounds unlikely.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 11:42 am to
I'm a bit confused at those talking about him being a liability in the run game.

Bowers didn't come out when UGA ran the ball and PFF evaluated him pretty favorably as both a run blocker and pass blocker.

LINK .

"He’s also one of 14 tight ends since 2014 with 75-plus career PFF run-blocking and pass-blocking grades."

It's not like he's a TE with no experience blocking. The only real question is if he's physically capable of blocking in the NFL (which I don't really think is a question). He knows HOW to block and has shown no fear in doing so at the college level.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 11:43 am
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