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Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:09 am to NATidefan
It does suck college football is a much more even playing field I agree lol
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:13 am to imjustafatkid
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Hard to see a lot of positives so far.
Quick rebuilds during coaching changes... hopefully.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:26 am to SidewalkTiger
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Alabama fans like the portal when they get good players, they hate it when they lose good players.
Nope. You know you’re wrong so you’re just arguing in bad faith at this point. Weird hill to pick to die on, you and I both know Bama fans (more so than any other fanbase on here) have consistently spoken out and bitched about unlimited transfers, NIL, and all the other free agency changes of that nature rapidly affecting the game. It is an incredible straw man and mind-numbingly stupid to point to a few instances where the portal benefited the program as evidence that fans supported the portal. But you already knew that.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:30 am to TejasHorn
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We probably won’t see a minor league setup like baseball, just due to the revenue involved for colleges, but I’m optimistic we’ll have a better system or sense of normalcy in 5 or 10 years. Cause it’s like the wild west right now and agree it’s hard to stay interested.
I agree on this point. Markets tend to correct themselves and the system now is clearly both dysfunctional and unsustainable. Either it’s a semi-pro league or it’s not. Right now we have a mixup of incompatible elements of both systems.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:55 am to NATidefan
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The transfer portal sucks
Originally, no - it helped some kids succeed, like Jalen Hurts. Without that year at Oklahoma, it's hard to see him get a first round pick and leading an NFL team.
The "free agent" version of the portal coupled with NIL is the real issue.
Professional sports have contracts and regulations that prevent the kind of "free for all" that the portal encourages now. That's the real issue with it - there's basically no rules.
The "transfer if a coach leaves" is an understandable, and good rule in general - it's the combination of that with NIL that causes the issue.
But, it is what it is. College football isn't the same sport anymore, not really.
It used to be that major changes to the sport measured over the span of decades:
The forward pass era
The AP poll era
Post-Integration
Now, in just the past 20 years you've seen:
The Offensive Evolution/Rule Benefits
Early Signing Period (eventually becoming the MAIN signing day)
The Transfer Portal
NIL
If you recall, in 2011 Alabama and LSU had insane defenses. You won't see a title game between two teams built around defense ever again. Great defenses will still exist, but you better have at LEAST a top 20 offense as well.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:56 am to Bird_Hunter
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It does suck college football is a much more even playing field I agree lol
NIL removes that entire premise.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:12 pm to skrayper
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NIL removes that entire premise.
We really going to pretend like Bama wasn’t doing NIL before ? Their players had the nicest car collections out of any athlete body at any school consistently lol. They just were better at handing out bags and not getting caught. The newest Dodge chargers and cameros were driven by tide players yearly.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:27 pm to Bird_Hunter
I agree somewhat
Obviously kids were getting money even before SMU. The difference today is the ability to transfer more readily.
I agree that the athletes should have the right to earn money. They are earning money for the school. And if the schools want more loyalty then a fair trade is probably that the kids who don't work out can't be processed.
Alabama (probably first among many others under Saban) was exceptional at the processing game. They recruited from other big programs and took more than they lost. It wouldn't be bad to have more rules and restrictions on NIL transfers but it seems unlikely that the NCAA can create a working (legal) policy given their shambolic enforcement history.
Obviously kids were getting money even before SMU. The difference today is the ability to transfer more readily.
I agree that the athletes should have the right to earn money. They are earning money for the school. And if the schools want more loyalty then a fair trade is probably that the kids who don't work out can't be processed.
Alabama (probably first among many others under Saban) was exceptional at the processing game. They recruited from other big programs and took more than they lost. It wouldn't be bad to have more rules and restrictions on NIL transfers but it seems unlikely that the NCAA can create a working (legal) policy given their shambolic enforcement history.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:43 pm to NATidefan
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The transfer portal sucks
Our hearts are breaking for you.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 2:41 pm to Bird_Hunter
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We really going to pretend like Bama wasn’t doing NIL before ? Their players had the nicest car collections out of any athlete body at any school consistently lol. They just were better at handing out bags and not getting caught. The newest Dodge chargers and cameros were driven by tide players yearly.
That's not what I said at all.
NIL is all about how much money can be collected, so schools with the wealthiest donors will be out front. You think a school like Kansas or Nebraska will be able to outspend Michigan or Texas?
There is no "new parity" in college football. There might be if/when the NCAA lays down some kind of ground rules on the maximum a school can dole out, like an NIL salary cap, but until then? No, parity is not even an illusion.
The 85-scholarship limit is WAY more impactful at generating parity than NIL.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:12 am to Farmer1906
Michigan NIL collective launches ‘Those Who Stay’ campaign to encourage football players to return
LINK
LINK
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:13 am to NATidefan
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Montana a 49er,
I guess that KC 19 jersey that says Montana doesn't exist.
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Jordan was a Bull and always a Bull
He was also a Washington Wizard
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:15 am to Wanruningchen
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Michigan NIL collective launches ‘Those Who Stay’ campaign to encourage football players to return
When Michigan gets a good look at Harbaugh's replacement, their collective won't keep the equipment manager.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:18 am to NATidefan
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I know alot of y'all have had to deal with it while it's not been a big deal to Bama fans til now, but it just makes being a fan hard.
Yep. Being a fan used to know you got to have players for a while, but many of them are now one and done and moving on, while making lots of money.
They are no longer amateur athletes, but professional athletes paying for a college.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:32 am to RollingwiththeTide
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What are you talking about. Alabama has a steady stream off loses every year not only to the portal but to the NFL as well. I don’t know where some of you think that Bama has been insulated somehow. Plenty of players leave every year. I bet that Alabama probably loses more players every year
than most SEC teams except for maybe Georgia.
^^ This
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:34 am to NATidefan
Dude, nobody likes the portal but is is a sin for a Bama fan to bring it up. Were you here after Sabans time in Washington. We were just whining. Saban has probably said he will never speak on it again. We'll win some and we'll lose some. I don't see where you say its never been a big deal to Bama. Didn't you see the mass exodus back in January?
The hypocrisy of this is non Bama fans will blow you up for bringing up the bad of the portal but will bitch when their players leave. The portal as is will be a sour point for ALL fanbases until something changes. Players aren't transferring for a change of scenery. they are going for a bigger paycheck. Anybody that doesn't see that is blind, a fool or ignorant.
The hypocrisy of this is non Bama fans will blow you up for bringing up the bad of the portal but will bitch when their players leave. The portal as is will be a sour point for ALL fanbases until something changes. Players aren't transferring for a change of scenery. they are going for a bigger paycheck. Anybody that doesn't see that is blind, a fool or ignorant.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:35 am to NATidefan
It’s Unfair
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:40 am to NATidefan
Everyone that wanted players to be paid helped create it. Enjoy it. It is what it is now.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:43 am to NATidefan
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Like Jordan was a Bull and always a Bull.
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