Jalen Milroe finished sixth in Heisman voting this year...

I think 6th is appropriate for him

I didn’t mean that as insult to him

He can be a great QB if he can get more consistent on short range passes, be less hesitant to run when all he has is daylight in front of him, and can learn to read the defense better during option plays.

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When you lose 3 games against your highest rated teams, you shouldn’t win it.

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Here's the Heisman criteria

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The Heisman Trophy is annually awarded to the most outstanding college football player in the United States whose performance epitomizes great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, and hard work.

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How your team did isn't supposed to be and should not be a consideration at all. If anything when it comes to Daniels, those losses should have HELPED his case.

vs FSU he was LSU's leading rusher and rushed or passed for 410 of their 459 yards (89%).

vs Ole Miss he rushed or passed for 513 of their 637 yards (81%) and was 2 yards shy of being the leading rusher. Take out sack yardage and he was easily the leading rusher.

vs Alabama he missed the last 12 minutes but still rushed or passed for 382 of their 478 yards (78%) and rushed for 4x as many yards as the rest of the team combined.

The fact that he played his best against his teams best opponents spoke volumes about his individual talent because in truth overall LSU just wasn't very good. Without him, they also 100% lose to Arky and Mizzou and possibly lose to Florida and aTm as well.

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Not bad for a guy whose season started out so disastrously. He should be the favorite to win the trophy going into 2024.

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He did not start out disastrously, he had one bad game, two bad throws. Even in that game, he brought Alabama back twice on his arm when UTx took the lead or was stretching the lead. There was a segment of the Alabama fanbase, who wanted Simpson, who thus overstated, maybe subconsciously, Jalen's flaws and understated or ignored his accomplishments and good qualities. He was never close to as bad as some of his critics claimed.

He's a great leader and has the rare clutch gene (Ark, UT, LSU, AU, UGA). He still has some work to do as a passer, but he is a great thrower. He still needs to gain a better feel of the QB position in general and when to do certain things(e.g., take off, throw the ball away, etc.). But he is already a very good college QB and the primary reason Alabama is the threat they are in the playoffs. He was never a disaster.

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Sugar coat it however you want, but Milroe was a liability in the Texas game.

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Not sugar-coating anything, just stating an opposing point of view.

His two ints were bad throws and directly led to 10 points - not disputing that. My point is that IMO, things were not as bad as some of his critics opined - certainly not disastrous. It was a bad game because of the ints and the loss to which they contributed. But many players have thrown 2 or more ints in a game without many in their fan base acting as though they committed a capital crime. In this game, Jalen also did good things that were ignored and IMO, it was not time to throw him under the bus. This view has been more than validated.

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He's still not finished figuring it out, so sky is the limit for him

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Statement of this thread.

Simpson came out of camp third on the depth chart. He's fortunate he got to play in a meaningful game at all.

This narrative that the team tanked for Milroe is totally baseless. The fact is we were horrid on the OL early in the year, and in that game not only was Booker out, but Dalcourt was still playing instead of Roberts. Proctor was still totally overwhelemed. USF was bringing 5-6 guys every pass play and our QBs and OL were not equipped to handle it. The team just played bad, they weren't protesting Milroe not being in there. GTFO with that ridiculous narrative. Nobody stepped out of the way to let Simpson get hit.