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re: Does all the SEC think Jayden should win the Heisman?
Posted on 11/14/23 at 12:54 pm to AMac
Posted on 11/14/23 at 12:54 pm to AMac
He is one of if not the best quarterbacks in the country. But I do not think he should win the Heisman. Stats are very important. But wins and losses are also, especially for a quarterback. A quarterback has more input on wins and losses than any other position on the field. He is the defacto leader of the team. A Heisman quarterback needs to elevate the whole team to another level. Think Cam Newton or Jameis Winston turning 8-4 teams into national champs. Daniels is great. But he has not done that. And right or wrong, I think most Heisman voters look at it very similarly.
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Posted on 11/14/23 at 12:57 pm to captdalton
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A quarterback has more input on wins and losses than any other position on the field.
Have you seen the LSU Defense?
Posted on 11/14/23 at 12:58 pm to captdalton
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He is one of if not the best quarterbacks in the country. But I do not think he should win the Heisman. Stats are very important. But wins and losses are also, especially for a quarterback. A quarterback has more input on wins and losses than any other position on the field. He is the defacto leader of the team. A Heisman quarterback needs to elevate the whole team to another level. Think Cam Newton or Jameis Winston turning 8-4 teams into national champs. Daniels is great. But he has not done that. And right or wrong, I think most Heisman voters look at it very similarly.
Daniels can't play defense. You couldn't ask more from him in terms of what he's done this year. Caleb Williams won it last year on a 3 loss team.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:11 pm to captdalton
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A quarterback has more input on wins and losses than any other position on the field.
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A Heisman quarterback needs to elevate the whole team to another level
If LSU had even a slightly below average defense instead of an all-time historically bad one, the team is sniffing playoffs right now. He has done everything he can short of taking over defensive play calling duties to rally the team. He can’t just blink his eyes and magically “elevate” anything. That’s just not how it works
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:15 pm to captdalton
quote:Neither of those teams had terrible defenses like LSU does this year. That Auburn D was very opportunistic, lead by Nick Fairley.
Think Cam Newton or Jameis Winston turning 8-4 teams into national champs.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:23 pm to captdalton
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He is the defacto leader of the team. A Heisman quarterback needs to elevate the whole team to another level. Think Cam Newton or Jameis Winston turning 8-4 teams into national champs.
This isn’t an 8-4 team. This is a 4 win team without him Daniels.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:28 pm to captdalton
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Think Cam Newton or Jameis Winston turning 8-4 teams into national champ
Lolwut. All 22 starters for FSU started in the NFL.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 7:33 pm to captdalton
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He is one of if not the best quarterbacks in the country. But I do not think he should win the Heisman. Stats are very important. But wins and losses are also, especially for a quarterback. A quarterback has more input on wins and losses than any other position on the field. He is the defacto leader of the team. A Heisman quarterback needs to elevate the whole team to another level. Think C
For the most part I agree. But I don’t think you can penalize JD for any of the losses. FSU was his worst game and he still had nearly 400 yards of offense.
In the 3 losses, he’s averaged over 400 yards multiple TDs and 1 TO.
His season is so much better than anyone else right now, why penalize him for bad defense.
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