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I have the feeling this weekend will let us know what we and ND have with our new OCs
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:50 pm
If Rees can't scheme up a game plan that's friendly to Milroe's skills Saban may have made another dud coordinator hire. It's early but ND fans are happy with their new OC and they feel he's schematically better than Rees.
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:11 pm to Shaft Williams
It probably helps just a tiny bit that ND looks competent along the OL, has an absolute stud RB, and a top 5 QB in the country
maybe just a little
Rees hasn't been great obviously, but our OL has been absolute arse, RBs have been meh, and QB play is obviously what we've seen
Hard to make chicken soup out of chicken shite
maybe just a little
Rees hasn't been great obviously, but our OL has been absolute arse, RBs have been meh, and QB play is obviously what we've seen
Hard to make chicken soup out of chicken shite
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:13 pm to bamabenny
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It probably helps just a tiny bit that ND looks competent along the OL, has an absolute stud RB, and a top 5 QB in the country
I’m not a fan of BoB but we would all remember him a lot differently if he hadn’t inherited garbage OLs.
In fact he might’ve won back to back championships and be revered like Sark.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:17 pm to tide06
One more thing about BOB is that once Jamo and Metchie got hurt and graduated our WR coach hadn't prepared adequate replacements.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:19 pm to bamabenny
All that might be true but the player talent at Bama is so great Rees won't get a pass if he can't get this offense to at least a serviceable level.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:22 pm to tide06
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I’m not a fan of BoB but we would all remember him a lot differently if he hadn’t inherited a first round QB.
In fact he might’ve had back to back losing seasons and be hated like Franchione.
FIFY. In all seriousness BoB brought Marrone in with him. The o-line play was his own fault.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:23 pm to bamabenny
Like I said it's early. We'll see what ND is once they play Ohio State. Their toughest game so far I think is NC State. I don't think that's a great litmus test for them.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:56 pm to Shaft Williams
They should be happy. Gerard (their new OC) is doing more in four games than Rees did in three seasons. Hell, Rees' offenses only managed to hit 40+ points eight times in four years. Gerard' offense has hit 40+ points in every game this season.
But our fans will continue to blame Rees' offensive shortcomings on talent for the next four years as they did with Golding and Shula... Because you know, we've really struggled to recruit talent the past few years while teams like Notre Dame, Texas and USF have really one upped us in recruiting...
Crazy how WKU and some HBCU is more "talented" than us offensively...
But our fans will continue to blame Rees' offensive shortcomings on talent for the next four years as they did with Golding and Shula... Because you know, we've really struggled to recruit talent the past few years while teams like Notre Dame, Texas and USF have really one upped us in recruiting...
Crazy how WKU and some HBCU is more "talented" than us offensively...
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:57 pm to Shaft Williams
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Like I said it's early. We'll see what ND is once they play Ohio State. Their toughest game so far I think is NC State. I don't think that's a great litmus test for them.
Then you'll have to explain why Rees' offenses couldn't seem to produce similar numbers against similarly weak competition at ND. Not disagreeing that the caliber of their competition is shitty but it was also shitty under Rees. Meanwhile, Rees was embarrassed against South Florida. Absolutely no excuses for that train wreck given the fact that our cheerleaders could suit up and hang 50 on them.
He only hit 50+ points twice in three seasons and 40+ only eight times in three seasons. Let's not forget even Pete Golding held his offense to one touchdown for 58 minutes.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:59 pm to EthanHunt007
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Hell, Rees' offenses only managed to hit 40+ points eight times in four years. Gerard' offense has hit 40+ points in every game this season.
I think Parker is doing a great job at ND so far, but Hartman is also the best QB ND has had in several years.
I imagine Bama would be putting up 40+ a game with Hartman at QB too.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:06 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
Can we at least get adequate oline play before we make a judgement on Rees?
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:14 pm to BamaFan107
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I'm not judging Rees yet, and I think he has a chance to successful, but he needs to adjust his playcalling to his personnel.
For example, if the OL is getting whipped and your QB is struggling making reads, you gotta run jet sweeps, WR screens, RPO slants, read options, etc.
For example, if the OL is getting whipped and your QB is struggling making reads, you gotta run jet sweeps, WR screens, RPO slants, read options, etc.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:15 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
Hartman is a four year starter at this point? And his last two seasons have been great
He’s very polished at this point for the college level
He’s very polished at this point for the college level
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:19 pm to UhOhOreo
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Hartman is a four year starter at this point? And his last two seasons have been great
He’s very polished at this point for the college level
All true. And, it's true that Rees should be able to adjust his style to suit his personnel especially until the OL comes along. And, this personnel is one of the most talented and deepest in the sport.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:35 pm to EthanHunt007
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Gerard (their new OC) is doing more in four games than Rees did in three seasons.
IMO, dumb metric.
They went against:
Navy
FCS TN State
A somewhat weak NC State
and Central Michigan
Ohio State will prove if they have a good offense or not. Let's pump the brakes here before we start praising untested OCs.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:45 pm to tide06
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I’m not a fan of BoB but we would all remember him a lot differently if he hadn’t inherited garbage OLs
Unfortunately his route trees looked like this
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 6:28 pm to BFANLC
Texas already told us what we “have”
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:12 pm to UhOhOreo
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Hartman is a four year starter at this point? And his last two seasons have been great He’s very polished at this point for the college level
Really curious why we didn’t go after him in the portal. After the A&M game last year, we knew that QB would be our biggest question mark.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:33 pm to Shaft Williams
It's not unreasonable to expect Rees to show some promise in this Ole Miss game. Austin Armstrong who was supposed to be our ILB coach is already showing promise as Florida's DC. Ole Miss should be improved defensively but they won't be the best defense we play this season. If there's no improvement out of the offense in this game it's an indictment of Rees and the entire offensive coaching staff.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:36 pm to FairhopeTider
I had some people say this week on this board we went after Hartmann. This was the first time I heard of that. I even heard one of the guys who does an Ole Miss football radio and YouTube show say he believes Bama didn't get a better QB out of the portal than Buchner because of a lack of money. Yes, Ole Miss backup QB Spencer Sanders would start at Bama
But I don't believe that a lack of money explains why we didn't get a better QB out of the portal. I think Saban was betting on either Milroe or Simpson having improved enough to be a competent starting QB.
But I don't believe that a lack of money explains why we didn't get a better QB out of the portal. I think Saban was betting on either Milroe or Simpson having improved enough to be a competent starting QB.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 7:39 pm
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