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Unfortunately, Josh Pate was 100% correct…
Posted on 9/16/23 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 9/16/23 at 11:11 pm
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Posted on 9/16/23 at 11:15 pm to BamaBravesPackers
Some of y'all gon get enough of listening to these media hacks. Payton don't know shite.
Posted on 9/16/23 at 11:19 pm to Shaft Williams
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Some of y'all gon get enough of listening to these media hacks. Payton don't know shite.
Tell me you’ve never listened to Late Kick without telling me you’ve never listened to Late Kick.
The dude is usually extremely high on Bama, and he has some of the best inside sources in college football. He’s one of the most highly respected college football analysts by coaches and other media. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Posted on 9/16/23 at 11:24 pm to BamaBravesPackers
I'm not impressed with Payton.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:11 am to BamaBravesPackers
Can you summarize what he said?…. I’m not going to listen to all of that
Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:39 am to Cobrasize
That we still have tons of talent like the teams of the past, (more than anyone we play) but what we don’t have is an all-time staff that the dynasty was built on.
Smart, Kiffin, Sark, Pruitt, Napier, Lanning, Tucker, Daboll, McElwain, Cristobal, etc.
Smart, Kiffin, Sark, Pruitt, Napier, Lanning, Tucker, Daboll, McElwain, Cristobal, etc.
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 12:41 am
Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:49 am to Cobrasize
The staff used to be comprised of future head coaches such as Smart, Lanning, Cristobal, Sark, Pruitt, Kiffin, Tucker etc.
The RB's had Burton Burns
Cochran got the team dialed in between the ears
He used his contacts to find out that the consensus among other programs is there is a huge drop-off with the current staff. No future HC's or big talents on the staff. "They make NO in-game adjustments." lol
Hell, it's been like that for a couple years. I could've told his arse that. Everyone hired all his coaches away, and Smart stole a lot of guys when he left... it all adds up and CNS isn't a spring chic nomo to keep rebuilding a staff. Pruitt leaving was the dagger in the back, and probably the guy Nick needed to stick around to help out. Et tu Brute ?
The RB's had Burton Burns
Cochran got the team dialed in between the ears
He used his contacts to find out that the consensus among other programs is there is a huge drop-off with the current staff. No future HC's or big talents on the staff. "They make NO in-game adjustments." lol
Hell, it's been like that for a couple years. I could've told his arse that. Everyone hired all his coaches away, and Smart stole a lot of guys when he left... it all adds up and CNS isn't a spring chic nomo to keep rebuilding a staff. Pruitt leaving was the dagger in the back, and probably the guy Nick needed to stick around to help out. Et tu Brute ?
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:12 am to BamaBravesPackers
You certainly can't blame struggling against a team that was annihilated by WKU and carved up by a HBCU on talent.
I mean, I seriously expected Rees to set our offense back but not back to Shula levels.
I mean, I seriously expected Rees to set our offense back but not back to Shula levels.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:19 am to PowHound
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The staff used to be comprised of future head coaches such as Smart, Lanning, Cristobal, Sark, Pruitt, Kiffin, Tucker etc.
The RB's had Burton Burns
Cochran got the team dialed in between the ears
He used his contacts to find out that the consensus among other programs is there is a huge drop-off with the current staff. No future HC's or big talents on the staff. "They make NO in-game adjustments." lol
Hell, it's been like that for a couple years. I could've told his arse that. Everyone hired all his coaches away, and Smart stole a lot of guys when he left... it all adds up and CNS isn't a spring chic nomo to keep rebuilding a staff. Pruitt leaving was the dagger in the back, and probably the guy Nick needed to stick around to help out. Et tu Brute ?
Exactly. The last four coordinator hires have been awful (Golding, Tosh, BOB and Rees). The fact that he kept Golding around for four years was alarming to say the least.
Then Saban out dumbasses his last OC hire by pulling a subpar OC away from Notre Dame. That to me was more surprising than the BOB hire. I did a lot of research on Rees and never could come to any logical conclusion as to what qualified him to be our OC. This hire was absolutely critical given the fact that our offense had been skating on thin ice the past few seasons and knowing the quarterback situation was going to be sketchy. But Saban royally botched it. At least Steele was an upgrade over Golding.
Like with Golding, I can only assume Saban wanted a yes man he could dictate who wouldn't give him any lip in return. What other fricking reason is there?
I knew Rees was going to be a bad hire and had a lot of rather unhealthy arguments with pumpers on BOL who ignorantly thought he was brining "murder ball" back but my god, I wasn't expecting it to be this bad...
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 1:23 am
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:21 am to Shaft Williams
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I'm not impressed with Payton.
Well let’s hear your expert analysis from your highly subscribed YouTube channel
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:44 am to TiderNAL
Never listened to the guy but having an audience doesn’t necessarily mean he’s an authority. Lots of morons have an audience these days.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:32 am to BamaBravesPackers
Been saying this for years.
Smh, glad everyone finally caught up
Smh, glad everyone finally caught up
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:07 am to EthanHunt007
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You certainly can't blame struggling against a team that was annihilated by WKU and carved up by a HBCU on talent.
Was Rees playing on the OL against USF? Our woes on offense weren't all scheme related. I think we ran the USF game as basically a scrimmage. In most cases, when things broke down, we just got physically whipped on the OL. We could have helped Proctor out with a TE more to stop the pass rush, or depended on running the ball more, and we probably would have looked better as far as the final score. But that wouldn't have helped to evaluate the QB's, or help our freshman LT get better at pass blocking.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:12 am to BamaBravesPackers
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Tell me you’ve never listened to Late Kick without telling me you’ve never listened to Late Kick. The dude is usually extremely high on Bama, and he has some of the best inside sources in college football. He’s one of the most highly respected college football analysts by coaches and other media. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Eh I disagree. I listen to Pate often and enjoy his content. But he’s on the radio so so much as a solo that he often is just rambling (albeit very intelligently and compellingly). If you listen to him for a month you’ll hear him take both sides of every argument. He’s the new generation Finebaum or Cowherd, except you don’t want to rip your hair out listening.
I do think he has sources but most of what he says is not sourced. It’s just stream of consciousness talking to fill air time.
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 9:13 am
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:25 am to EthanHunt007
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Exactly. The last four coordinator hires have been awful (Golding, Tosh, BOB and Rees). The fact that he kept Golding around for four years was alarming to say the least.
Then Saban out dumbasses his last OC hire by pulling a subpar OC away from Notre Dame. That to me was more surprising than the BOB hire. I did a lot of research on Rees and never could come to any logical conclusion as to what qualified him to be our OC. This hire was absolutely critical given the fact that our offense had been skating on thin ice the past few seasons and knowing the quarterback situation was going to be sketchy. But Saban royally botched it. At least Steele was an upgrade over Golding.
Like with Golding, I can only assume Saban wanted a yes man he could dictate who wouldn't give him any lip in return. What other fricking reason is there?
I knew Rees was going to be a bad hire and had a lot of rather unhealthy arguments with pumpers on BOL who ignorantly thought he was brining "murder ball" back but my god, I wasn't expecting it to be this bad...
Yeah, I basically have the same take, right down to the head scratching over Saban's OC hiring criteria. Back when we hired Rees, I was thinking it must have something to do with Rees being able to talk convincingly about how he's going to do whatever big picture scheme things Saban was focused on, but honestly, I can't wrap my mind around bringing a guy like that in even if he does kinda seem like a stylistic match with where Saban was wanting to go.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:43 am to Tupelo
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Was Rees playing on the OL against USF? Our woes on offense weren't all scheme related.
I'm willing to give Rees time to get it figured out. The OL is horrific. There is likely nothing Rees can do about that. If you're looking for someone to fire, Eric Wolford goes first. He's been an utter failure so far as an OL coach. And the QBs take a little time to develop. As an OC, Rees is tremendously handicapped in terms of what he can do. Give Rees Tua and the four frisbee catching dogs he had, and Rees could probably generate some offense also.
Finebaum is quoted today as basically saying Rees needs to be fired. Finebaum is an idiot. Anyone who's watched college football for a month know that if the OL doesn't get fixed, it doesn't matter who the OC is.
I don't know if Rees was the best Saban could get. He did get ND to the playoffs in 2020. Maybe there were other guys out there that Saban wanted but couldn't get. Some guys would love to work for Saban, some don't want to. Dan Enos did an outstanding job here. So why is he the OC at Arkansas instead of Alabama? Jalen stayed a year to work with Enos, and look where Jalen is now. That's just one example.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:45 am to FeralFeral
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right down to the head scratching over Saban's OC hiring criteria.
Criteria #1...someone who will take the job. That's one thing that probably none of us know...guys Saban might rather have had but wouldn't take the job.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:50 am to BamaGradinTn
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Dan Enos did an outstanding job here. So why is he the OC at Arkansas instead of Alabama? Jalen stayed a year to work with Enos, and look where Jalen is now. That's just one example.
Guess you are not familiar with Enos’s history with Saban. He doesn’t like Saban, I was shocked he took the job with us. Must have been desperate. He literally left his position with Alabama without informing Saban. Who does that?
Posted on 9/17/23 at 2:30 pm to My2Bits
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Dan Enos did an outstanding job here. So why is he the OC at Arkansas instead of Alabama? Jalen stayed a year to work with Enos, and look where Jalen is now. That's just one example.
Guess you are not familiar with Enos’s history with Saban. He doesn’t like Saban, I was shocked he took the job with us. Must have been desperate. He literally left his position with Alabama without informing Saban. Who does that?
You made my point for me. God only knows how many good coordinators are out there that won't work for Saban.
Maybe Rees was the best he could get who would actually say yes.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 5:45 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Finebaum is an idiot.
We all know that for sure
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BamaGradinTn
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