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re: Pete Golding

Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:54 am to
Posted by C W
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:54 am to
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CNS's desire to make Alabama Collective NIL socialistic. Share the money with all of the players, rather than focused big hitters.


And that may prove to be the best way to do it for team unity. Players can still negotiate other NIL opportunities, like Bryce Young has. Alabama is, after all, atop recruiting ranks again. A&M isn’t and their season has been a disaster.

Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:03 am to
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If that's true, I would have to agree with Pete. IF that is how Saban approaches NIL, he does need to retire.


So if Saban doesn’t fire Golding some posters think Saban needs to be replaced, and if Saban policy is to share NIL money among the team he needs to be replaced, though players are free to negotiate other individual deals.

What are some other reasons Saban needs to be replaced?
Posted by Remiden
Member since Jan 2018
1322 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:04 am to
He's developed a portion of the fan base that are shitty.
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:47 am to
My problem with the Alabama NIL is the bunch that run it, High Tide Traditions. You would think one of the first things would have been to contact every Alabama fan that had been in Tide Pride the last few years and/or otherwise supported the University athletics but I know that didn’t happen and still hasn’t. I don’t know how much they profit but i do know it is not a non profit organization. I am not certain how other programs do it but I am pretty sure some are non profit.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18263 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:14 am to
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And that may prove to be the best way to do it for team unity. Players can still negotiate other NIL opportunities, like Bryce Young has. Alabama is, after all, atop recruiting ranks again. A&M isn’t and their season has been a disaster.

I think it is/should be the preferred way. Big time players are going to get their own deals.

Everyone getting something keeps the locker room happy.

The only differentiation may be to look at pay by position groups, but that would have to be well reasoned and communicated. Or, maybe even consider giving preferred walk-ons a little extra, if eligible.

I wonder at some point, as teams are filled with elite talent with many making more than some of the staff and who hold no real loyalty to the University aside from a place to play and get paid until the NFL and freedom to leave anytime things don't go their way, if some staffs might not prefer to start targeting recruiting differently to ensure best "team" conditions as preferential to the most elite rosters of individuals.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 8:20 am
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:27 am to
As posted above I’m not sure that High Tide Traditions are doing it the best way but some things you hear apparently are not how it actually is. Here is some info.

LINK

I tried to link the FAQ page but it didn’t work. Click FAQ or the menu icon top right.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 8:29 am
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22206 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:39 am to
I think Saban’s stance to share NIL proceeds is a good one, and I’m definitely not a socialist. We have a problem with team unity, IMO, and if we were like Texas A&M it would be so much worse. High Tide Traditions doesn’t seem to be all that great, though, so our implementation needs to be improved.
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:55 am to
The actual Alabama fans that want to replace Saban should consider that Alabama isn’t still recruiting more elite players because of the NIL, but because of Saban. When he’s gone Alabama will be among all the other programs with average NIL deals.

Some of these people evidently were not Alabama fans before Saban came or they would know it isn’t always this good.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11841 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:00 am to
In regards to the NIl deal you either get onboard or you will fall behind. I do not care who is at the helm. Example why is Mitchell returning to a&m right before ESD?

Alabama's effort to be among the elite in regards to NIL will need to be in place for whoever is the HC at UA.

Elite talent do want to play for an elite program/staff but right now many are questioning if that is the case at UA. And not talking about fans.
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:13 am to
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Elite talent do want to play for an elite program/staff but right now many are questioning if that is the case at UA. And not talking about fans.


247

But it is never a surprise when recruits de-commit. It happens every year. Long time recruiting observers know this.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10083 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:05 am to
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He's developed a portion of the fan base that are shitty.

It's shitty for me to believe a person should be able to decide what they want to do with their money?
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10083 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:08 am to
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I think it is/should be the preferred way. Big time players are going to get their own deals


Having a base pay provided for everyone and everyone sharing NIL money is two very different things.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10083 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:15 am to
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What are some other reasons Saban needs to be replaced?


He wants to retire?

My previous statement is solely about sharing NIL money. If he wants everyone to share their money, we will quickly be left behind.

Schools are going to learn from Texas A&M. You need more than just throwing money at the top composite players.
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4204 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:26 am to
Soooo....when's Golding gone?
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2295 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:46 am to
If anything happens it won't until we are announced out of the playoffs.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10083 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:47 am to
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Soooo....when's Golding gone?


Today wouldn't be early enough.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4364 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:10 am to
sad.. this post ... wow.
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
3732 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:18 am to
if i remember correctly from when the ncaa first ok'd nil. the schools had no part in the deals. it was a transaction between the player and whoever wanted to hire his name, image and likeness for an amount agreed upon by those two parties. however, it now seems like schools are trying to do what the government does, confiscate a right and then sell it back to us. i dont see how a school can force any individual player to give up his earnings to the collective. now, if you say there's a pool of money donated, to be handed out equally amog all scholarship players. then thats not a name, image and likeness individual deal, that's a school deal. which brings on a whole different situation.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 11:20 am
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10083 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:21 am to
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sad.. this post ... wow.


What is sad about it?
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
2919 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:23 am to
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i dont see how a school can force any individual player to give up his earnings to the collective


That is correct. It would have to be voluntary or we'll be looking at more lawsuits.
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