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WR Recruiting - No Excuse
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:25 pm
QBs are hard to predict for both college and the NFL
It would almost be understandable to have a meh QB every now and then, but we've actually managed to do exceptionally well in this area. We might have 4 QBs starting concurrently in the NFL next year. That might be a record.
WRs are typically much easier to predict. Tall, strong, fast, leaping ability, hands - these are all pretty easy to measure. Even if a guy isn't quite what you thought, he's still probably pretty good.
So why then do we have SO MANY misses? You could make the case that our best WR the past 2 seasons has been a transfer that couldnt even get playing time at OSU or Georgia.
Wtf is going on with this position? It's pretty obvious to most people that we lost the NC last year due to an inexcusable lack of depth at the position. Realistically, without Jamo (OSU's 3rd string), who knows what we would've looked like last season.
We all thought (including the coaches) the problem was solved this offseason when we picked up 2 guys from the portal - one of which was suppoedly a burner who would replace Jamo. Apparently it didn't work out...
We can talk all day long about BoB, and I won't argue with a lot of what people are saying, but we looked pretty damn lethal on offense last year with Jamo and Metchie. We shredded Kirby Smart, whose arse a lot of you like to kiss.
Maybe the simple truth is that we don't have a single dude who can even sniff Jamo's jock this year. Which is to say we don't have a single first round talent at WR on the whole roster. When has our WR corps EVER been this bad? I mean hell, even Shula had better WRs than this with Prothro and DJ Hall.
These dudes are mediocre at best, and when we basically can recruit anyone we want, there's no excuse for this.
It would almost be understandable to have a meh QB every now and then, but we've actually managed to do exceptionally well in this area. We might have 4 QBs starting concurrently in the NFL next year. That might be a record.
WRs are typically much easier to predict. Tall, strong, fast, leaping ability, hands - these are all pretty easy to measure. Even if a guy isn't quite what you thought, he's still probably pretty good.
So why then do we have SO MANY misses? You could make the case that our best WR the past 2 seasons has been a transfer that couldnt even get playing time at OSU or Georgia.
Wtf is going on with this position? It's pretty obvious to most people that we lost the NC last year due to an inexcusable lack of depth at the position. Realistically, without Jamo (OSU's 3rd string), who knows what we would've looked like last season.
We all thought (including the coaches) the problem was solved this offseason when we picked up 2 guys from the portal - one of which was suppoedly a burner who would replace Jamo. Apparently it didn't work out...
We can talk all day long about BoB, and I won't argue with a lot of what people are saying, but we looked pretty damn lethal on offense last year with Jamo and Metchie. We shredded Kirby Smart, whose arse a lot of you like to kiss.
Maybe the simple truth is that we don't have a single dude who can even sniff Jamo's jock this year. Which is to say we don't have a single first round talent at WR on the whole roster. When has our WR corps EVER been this bad? I mean hell, even Shula had better WRs than this with Prothro and DJ Hall.
These dudes are mediocre at best, and when we basically can recruit anyone we want, there's no excuse for this.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 10:32 pm
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Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:50 pm to ChromaticTide
It's funny an ironic that on this same forum people were bashing Jaemson until mid-season when Bryce realized he should basically ignore BOB's play call and just heave balls deep to Jamo.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:55 pm to YStar
In fairness Jameson was dropping a lot of balls. In fact all of our WRs were dropping a lot of balls last year. Which again begs the question, wtf is going on at this position?
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:56 pm to ChromaticTide
Your takes are pretty awful, and a lot of the ones you listed are bad, but this one made me lol. Do you even watch football or just listen to the old dumbasses that call in the Finebaum?
Literally every receiver we have in the league other than Julio goes against almost all of these points. The smaller, faster, in and out of breaks speed guys are the new college and NFL breeds.
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WRs are typically much easier to predict. Tall, strong, fast, leaping ability, hands
Literally every receiver we have in the league other than Julio goes against almost all of these points. The smaller, faster, in and out of breaks speed guys are the new college and NFL breeds.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:11 pm to ChromaticTide
I mentioned this before but watching the game in person against MSU we ran go routes a lot. Nothing imaginative at all. It’s not helping out WR’s at all. When you have average WR’s you scheme them, aka Auburn, they did it well for years.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:13 pm to ChromaticTide
Punter is the position that makes my brain hurt how its possible to miss on an eval.
There are only so many 1st round WRs. Having two on one college team is remarkable. Having both get injured before a national championship game is pure bullshite.
There are only so many 1st round WRs. Having two on one college team is remarkable. Having both get injured before a national championship game is pure bullshite.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:18 pm to PowHound
Stop throwing the ball into the flat so much
Slants and bunch formations
I miss sark .. game planning people wide open
Slants and bunch formations
I miss sark .. game planning people wide open
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:52 pm to PowHound
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There are only so many 1st round WRs. Having two on one college team is remarkable
Yet, we always managed to have at least 1 until now.
Now we don't even have a 2nd round guy. Maybe Bond?
Posted on 11/3/22 at 6:12 am to ChromaticTide
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There are only so many 1st round WRs. Having two on one college team is remarkable
Yet, we always managed to have at least 1 until now.
Now we don't even have a 2nd round guy. Maybe Bond?
How many freshmen anywhere would be considered first or second round draft players half way into their freshmen year? Virtually none. Bond and Prentice have looked about as well as freshmen can reasonably be expected to. They both have performed well. I still expect great things in the future from them, and from some of our other freshmen WR's too.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 6:58 am to ChromaticTide
Your posted topic is wr recruiting. You do realize, of course, that Alabama signed 4 of the top 10 wrs in the nation in 2021 and 3 of the top 12 in 2022. Right?
So regardless if they are playing to their potential, these kids were very highly recruited.
2 things
They are still young, and some of them are improving.
and
They are not Juedy, Smith, Ruggs, and Waddle. It's really kind of goofy to compare the young guys with those receivers, all NFL first round choices.
geezus
So regardless if they are playing to their potential, these kids were very highly recruited.
2 things
They are still young, and some of them are improving.
and
They are not Juedy, Smith, Ruggs, and Waddle. It's really kind of goofy to compare the young guys with those receivers, all NFL first round choices.
geezus
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:37 am to ChromaticTide
I honestly don't have an issue with our receiver talent. Most are young and not sure pulling Burton was the right choice but I believe our issues are not talent related. They are coaching related. Now WHICH coach is to blame is debatable.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:13 am to DT55Forever1
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I honestly don't have an issue with our receiver talent. Most are young and not sure pulling Burton was the right choice but I believe our issues are not talent related. They are coaching related. Now WHICH coach is to blame is debatable.
I agree. It seems to me that the biggest deficiency with our WRs is that they are not good route runners. That is an absolutely coachable issue. A 4 or 5 star wide receiver can get by in high school just with size, speed, and hands. But if they aren't excellent route runners, they will only be mediocre at this level against 4 and 5 star DBs and the complex coverages they will see. They can absolutely be taught how to be good route runners. Little things like being sure to run your route to the first down line on 3rd down instead of a yard short. Making precise cuts on a crossing pattern instead of drifting. Setting up the defender and getting them to bite on a fake. Coming back to the QB and/or finding open space when the QB breaks out of the pocket.
It was a skill that our top WRs the last several years have had.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:28 am to CrimsonBoz
THis isn't on WRs at all. I hope that BOB realizes that and change up the routes to make it interesting.
I will say this... BOB needs to scheme WR better... let WR adjusts their routes.
That solves lot of problems right now.
I will say this... BOB needs to scheme WR better... let WR adjusts their routes.
That solves lot of problems right now.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:31 am to bamabenny
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Literally every receiver we have in the league other than Julio goes against almost all of these points. The smaller, faster, in and out of breaks speed guys are the new college and NFL breeds.
bullshite. Smith and Waddle were 8 ft tall,built like Greek gods, and physically dominated smaller DBs and safeties.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 10:47 am
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:46 am to ChromaticTide
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In fairness Jameson was dropping a lot of balls. In fact all of our WRs were dropping a lot of balls last year. Which again begs the question, wtf is going on at this position?
You have some years where you have recruits that have sticker hands than others and you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:56 am to ChromaticTide
I think we've got some talent in the receiver room but the usage is bizarre.
Don't throw a screen to Holden when you've got Bond and Leary. That's where they need the ball. Look at the NFL. The Bills don't throw the ball deep to Isaiah Mckenzie but they certainly give it to him near the line of scrimmage.
Don't make Bond a primary guy over the middle when you've got Brooks. I just don't know how much thought really goes into personnel with BoB. It's like let's run this play, not let's run this play but make sure we're getting it into this guys hands.
Don't throw a screen to Holden when you've got Bond and Leary. That's where they need the ball. Look at the NFL. The Bills don't throw the ball deep to Isaiah Mckenzie but they certainly give it to him near the line of scrimmage.
Don't make Bond a primary guy over the middle when you've got Brooks. I just don't know how much thought really goes into personnel with BoB. It's like let's run this play, not let's run this play but make sure we're getting it into this guys hands.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:14 pm to ChromaticTide
Are we seriously acting like at this time in 2017, Jeudy, Smith, and Ruggs had already established themselves as future 1st round picks
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:19 pm to Glorious
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Are we seriously acting like at this time in 2017, Jeudy, Smith, and Ruggs had already established themselves as future 1st round picks
DeVonta and Ruggs had a combined 10 catches for 238 yards before DeVonta's game winning TD catch in Starkville.
Smitty had 8 catches the whole season and never more than 1 in a game
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I’m so glad we entered the transfer portal that offseason and replaced those scrubs. Our receivers from 2018 to 2020 were phenomenal
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