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It’s been a good run
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:31 pm
We’ve had a good run fellas and we’re not done yet but you can see the end from here. We’re no longer dominant, struggling to win on the road and letting a suspect A&M team take us to the wire at home. We are still getting excellent talent in the program, but they are no longer receiving the best coaching from the best assistants. Our secondary has been a penalty machine the last 2 seasons and we can’t cover a good receiver with a blanket. The offense is still holding up pretty well thanks to Bryce and Gibbs but it’s hamstrung in the upstairs booth by BOB. Saban hasn’t lost it, he’s just run out of guys he knows can coach. Hell, he’s 70 years old, most of his peers have hung it up. Golding is a fricking joke. His defense just got torched for 52 points, the most Bama has given up in 115 years. Let that sink in. The decline and fall of the dynasty is in the early stages but it is indeed here.
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Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:35 pm to phil4bama
Agreed
I wouldn’t mind seeing Saban walk away while the job is still attractive to an innovative coach.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Saban walk away while the job is still attractive to an innovative coach.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:36 pm to phil4bama
I usually downvote posts like this, but this is well thought out.
This is Bryce's last season, and then who will we be?
Our defense is hot garbage every year. Our offense looks great, but it's not really better than a handful of other teams.
This is Bryce's last season, and then who will we be?
Our defense is hot garbage every year. Our offense looks great, but it's not really better than a handful of other teams.
This post was edited on 10/15/22 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:36 pm to phil4bama
People don't want to hear it.
This post was edited on 10/15/22 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:40 pm to phil4bama
We played for a title last year.
Jesus.
Jesus.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:44 pm to phil4bama
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His defense just got torched for 52 points, the most Bama has given up in 115 years. Let that sink in. The decline and fall of the
Perhaps, but bear in mind that all the records for the last 100 years (actually longer) bear no relevance to the game as it's played today. If you look at Joe Namath's stats, you would swear that he couldn't start for Vanderbilt today. It's not so, but the game has changed that much. Scoring 52 points today is as common as scoring 21 points or less was back then. We are in need of better offensive and defensive coordinators, though, in my opinion. I think we may have reached the point that stability no longer outweighs the need for change.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 11:51 pm to phil4bama
To add more fuel to the fire, outside of BY, our only real playmakers on offense the past 2 seasons have been transfers.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 3:02 am to phil4bama
You seem to be correct. A lot of people don't want to look beyond the Ws and Ls, but this loss has been in the making for a while. There is no reason we should give up 52 points to anyone short of the 1999 St. Louis Rams, ESPECIALLY not Tennessee. When it's not Golding, it's BOB and when it's not BOB, it's Golding. The losses haven't accumulated yet, but everyone can see it coming.
I hate looking like this so much more than I hate losing
I hate looking like this so much more than I hate losing
Posted on 10/16/22 at 5:42 am to phil4bama
My opinion, which is probably shite, is Saban needs to scrap his defensive philosophy and reform it to what most NFL teams are now doing to stop the long, explosive plays. More zone, everything in front of you, make them drive 10 plus plays every single possession defenses. You can still pressure and blitz, but the safeties and corners can’t get torched all day like has become the norm.
The days of defensive domination are over. The rules have been skewed to favor the offense 100% of the time. He did well in bringing in Kiffin and Sark. He just needs to adapt better of defense.
If the mush rush was the game plan yesterday, it was a shite game plan. Man to man with safeties constantly matched up on 11 was a nightmare and we never adjusted. How does that happen? Golding has to go.
If Saban wants to be kinder and gentler, then hire some pricks to install some discipline and motivate these kids. It has been hard to watch the decline in attitude and soft play. Nobody fears us anymore because we aren’t scary. We are average and weak. To let TN get 4-6 extra yards on effort alone after they should have been wrapped up and dropped for a loss is sickening to watch. They moved the pile on nearly every run. Truly a sad loss.
The days of defensive domination are over. The rules have been skewed to favor the offense 100% of the time. He did well in bringing in Kiffin and Sark. He just needs to adapt better of defense.
If the mush rush was the game plan yesterday, it was a shite game plan. Man to man with safeties constantly matched up on 11 was a nightmare and we never adjusted. How does that happen? Golding has to go.
If Saban wants to be kinder and gentler, then hire some pricks to install some discipline and motivate these kids. It has been hard to watch the decline in attitude and soft play. Nobody fears us anymore because we aren’t scary. We are average and weak. To let TN get 4-6 extra yards on effort alone after they should have been wrapped up and dropped for a loss is sickening to watch. They moved the pile on nearly every run. Truly a sad loss.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 6:25 am to phil4bama
1 point win over Texas on a last second FG
4 point win over a&m that came down to the last play in the end zone
3 point loss to Tennessee on a last second FG
I don’t care if we beat the piss out of Vanderbilt and Utah State, any mediocre team take this team down to the wire. The defense has been terrible since 2018 and spare me the game has changed stuff Clemson and UGA still manage to play defense. This is what decline looks like. Yes I remember close games and losses every year but this is getting common place now.
4 point win over a&m that came down to the last play in the end zone
3 point loss to Tennessee on a last second FG
I don’t care if we beat the piss out of Vanderbilt and Utah State, any mediocre team take this team down to the wire. The defense has been terrible since 2018 and spare me the game has changed stuff Clemson and UGA still manage to play defense. This is what decline looks like. Yes I remember close games and losses every year but this is getting common place now.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 6:29 am to phil4bama
It's been a GREAT run; unprecedented in football history, but the spoiled entitled "fans" around here can't even appreciate it, because they've forgotten what it was like before Saban.
All things pass. If the dynasty is in decline, and I strongly contest that, then I'll mark myself fortunate to have witnessed it, and look forward to the next great coach and future glory.
All things pass. If the dynasty is in decline, and I strongly contest that, then I'll mark myself fortunate to have witnessed it, and look forward to the next great coach and future glory.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 9:54 am to phil4bama
Just a counter point to everything being said in this thread: Look around and we are still the most consistently dominant program in the country.
Maybe things are just more difficult than they used to be, and with football turning more into 7-on-7, parity has increased across the board. There are lots of good QBs and lots of good WRs out there.
Remember back when everyone thought Dabo was the new Saban? Well he hasn't looked so hot without a superstar QB.
Kirby had a good year last year, but we shredded him last year in the SECCG, and he's still only got one natty and one SEC title, and there's a great chance he doesn't win the East this year.
What gets lost in all the playoff hype is the fact that we've won the SEC Championship 3 out of the last 4 years, which is a big deal considering this is the toughest conference by far.
I still wouldn't trade Saban for anyone at this moment
Maybe things are just more difficult than they used to be, and with football turning more into 7-on-7, parity has increased across the board. There are lots of good QBs and lots of good WRs out there.
Remember back when everyone thought Dabo was the new Saban? Well he hasn't looked so hot without a superstar QB.
Kirby had a good year last year, but we shredded him last year in the SECCG, and he's still only got one natty and one SEC title, and there's a great chance he doesn't win the East this year.
What gets lost in all the playoff hype is the fact that we've won the SEC Championship 3 out of the last 4 years, which is a big deal considering this is the toughest conference by far.
I still wouldn't trade Saban for anyone at this moment
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 10:02 am
Posted on 10/16/22 at 12:20 pm to phil4bama
2021 - lost 1 reg season game; lost to Ga in CFP championship
2020 - undefeated; won CFP championship
2019 - lost 2 reg season games (LSU & Aub); won Citrus Bowl
2018 - undefeated reg season; lost to Clem in CFP championship
2017 - lost 1 reg season game; Won CFP championship
2016 - undefeated reg season; lost to Clem in CFP championship
2015 - lost 1 reg season game; Won CFP championship
2014 - lost 1 reg season game; lost to OSU in CFP championship
2013 - lost 1 reg season game; lost Sugar Bowl
2012 - lost 1 reg season game; Won BCS championship
2011 - lost 1 reg season game; Won BCS championship
2010 - lost 3 reg season games (worse Nick Saban year @Bama)
2009 - undefeated BCS Champions
2008 - undefeated reg season; lost SEC Champ game & Sugar Bowl
2007 - Saban's 1st year 7-6
Bama's actually won 4 national championships after losing a regular season game. I'm not panicking yet.
2020 - undefeated; won CFP championship
2019 - lost 2 reg season games (LSU & Aub); won Citrus Bowl
2018 - undefeated reg season; lost to Clem in CFP championship
2017 - lost 1 reg season game; Won CFP championship
2016 - undefeated reg season; lost to Clem in CFP championship
2015 - lost 1 reg season game; Won CFP championship
2014 - lost 1 reg season game; lost to OSU in CFP championship
2013 - lost 1 reg season game; lost Sugar Bowl
2012 - lost 1 reg season game; Won BCS championship
2011 - lost 1 reg season game; Won BCS championship
2010 - lost 3 reg season games (worse Nick Saban year @Bama)
2009 - undefeated BCS Champions
2008 - undefeated reg season; lost SEC Champ game & Sugar Bowl
2007 - Saban's 1st year 7-6
Bama's actually won 4 national championships after losing a regular season game. I'm not panicking yet.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 7:24 pm to phil4bama
I agree it’s been a heck of run, but it’s not over. We have bad assistant coaches, and that is what I believe we’re seeing. This game to me, was more of an Hugh Freeze era loss to Ole Miss, it sucks but we’ll come around. We’re not developing the players like we have in past, that Is what I see the most. We have elite athletes all over the field but either don’t know how to use them on account of poor play calling on offense or not developing them on the defensive side. The Dynasty has been in decline since we won our first Natty with Saban and come out the next year with the same team and lost to South Carolina. We need a young OC and an Old DC we got it backwards.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 7:39 pm to phil4bama
Same shite I heard when we lost 3 games in 2010, including to South Fvkn Carolina. Same shite I heard after 2013 and Kick Six. Saban has lost it. Gus is the new face of college football. Same shite I heard when we lost to Ohio State in the playoffs in 2014 and the NC games to Clemson in 2016 and 2018. Saban changed how he recruited and completely reimagined his offensive mindset. Then we went undefeated in an All-SEC schedule in 2020 and win another NC. I’m sick of this bitching. Bunch of pussies.
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:42 am to phil4bama
This same team with penis head Pruitt at DC would be wrecking everybody by 30. We just need a shakeup at coordinator.
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