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Power 5 QBS : NFL QB Rating on throws > 20+ yards down the field

Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:20 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:20 pm
Per PFF Premium Stats (at least 5 attempts) (out of 67 QBs)

1. Max Duggan (TCU) (6/7, 174 yds, 24.9 YPA, 3 TD/0 INT)
1. Tanner Morgan (Minnesota) (5/6, 190 yds, 31.7 YPA, 3 TD/0 INT)
1. Graham Mertz (Wisconsin) (9/11, 275 yds, 25.0 YPA, 4 TD/0 INT)
4. CJ Stroud (Ohio State) (7/11, 255 yds, 23.2 YPA, 3 TD/0 INT)
5. Chance Nolan (Oregon State) (8/13, 297 yds, 22.8 YPA, 3 TD/0 INT)

11. KJ Jefferson (Arkansas) (6/11, 215 yds, 19.5 YPA, 2 TD/0 INT)
18. Mike Wright (Vanderbilt) (4/9, 148 yds, 16.4 YPA, 2 TD/0 INT)
22. Hendon Hooker (Tennessee) (7/19, 288 yds, 15.2 YPA, 4 TD/0 INT)
24. Will Levis (Kentucky) (7/14, 215 yds, 15.4 YPA, 1 TD/0 INT)
27. Jayden Daniels (LSU) (3/8, 88 yds, 11.0 YPA, 2 TD/0 INT)
34. Stetson Bennett (UGA) (4/11, 110 yds, 10.0 YPA, 1 TD/0 INT)
36. AJ Swann (Vanderbilt) (3/10, 90 yds, 9.0 YPA, 1 TD/0 INT)
37. Will Rogers (Miss St) (4/8, 124 yds, 15.5 YPA, 3 TD/1 INT)
44. Haynes King (Texas A&M) (4/11, 193 yds, 17.5 YPA, 3 TD/1 INT)
47. Anthony Richardson (Florida) (4/11, 115 yds, 10.5 YPA, 0 TD/0 INT)
48. Spencer Rattler (South Carolina) (5/13, 241 yds, 18.5 YPA, 1 TD/3 INT)
52. Brady Cook (Missouri) (4/16, 168 yds, 10.5 YPA, 1 TD/1 INT)
55. Jaxon Dart (Ole Miss) (6/15, 212 yds, 14.1 YPA, 0 TD/1 INT)
58. TJ Finley (Auburn) (5/11, 133 yds, 12.1 YPA, 0 TD/1 INT)

65. Bryce Young (Alabama) (1/7, 38 yds, 5.4 YPA, 0 TD/1 INT)


The only 2 Power 5 QBs with a worse NFL QB Rating on passes > 20 yards down the field are

66. Jeff Sims (Georgia Tech) (1/8, 38 yds, 4.8 YPA, 0 TD/2 INT)
67. Kedon Slovis (Pitt) (1/7, 20 yds, 2.9 YPA, 0 TD/1 INT)

This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 9:40 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:23 pm to
Deep (20+ yds)
65. Bryce Young (Alabama) (1/7, 38 yds, 5.4 YPA, 0 TD/1 INT)


Intermediate (10-19 yds)
10. Bryce Young (Alabama) (17/26, 275 yds, 10.6 YPA, 4 TD/0 INT)


Short (0-9 yds)
10. Bryce Young (Alabama) (24/29, 215 yds, 7.4 YPA, 4 TD/1 INT)


Behind LOS
15. Bryce Young (Alabama) (16/17, 116 yds, 6.8 YPA, 1 TD/0 INT)
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 9:24 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:26 pm to
Another insane stat

60.7% of Stetson Bennett's pass attempts are within 9 yards of the LOS

31.5% of Stetson Bennett's pass attempts are behind the LOS
Posted by Marktastic86
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Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

60.7% of Stetson Bennett's pass attempts are within 9 yards of the LOS

31.5% of Stetson Bennett's pass attempts are behind the LOS

It's so weird that most of UGA's passes look like check downs, yet most of them still go for big yardage.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:31 pm to
It’s the simple method of distributing the ball to better athletes. Close by or 7 yards always. Getting them in open space. Lack of deep threat will eventually bite them, same for us. My hope is Harrell and Earl will open it up for us.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

It's so weird that most of UGA's passes look like check downs, yet most of them still go for big yardage.


It's almost like scheming a player open and then getting them the ball is a recipe for success or something
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:37 pm to
There is one more thing to add here

Bryce is #2 in "time to throw" on throws > 20 yards downfield. So the issue is not protection.

1. Kedon Slovis (Pitt) (4.24 sec)
2. Bryce Young (Bama) (4.07 sec)
3. Jayden de Laura (Arizona) (3.93 sec)
4. J.T. Shrout (Colorado) (3.68 sec)
5. KJ Jefferson (Arkansas) (3.65 sec)
6. Hudson Card (Texas) (3.60 sec)
6. Stetson Bennett (Georgia) (3.60 sec)
8. Tyler Van Dyke (Miami) (3.46 sec)
8. Cam Ward (Wazzu) (3.46 sec)
10. Spencer Rattler (Carolina) (3.37 sec)
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:43 pm to
In total - "Time to Throw" for Bryce

2022 - 2.91 seconds (#25 FBS)
2021 - 2.79 seconds (#57 FBS)



OL Pass Blocking Efficiency - Alabama

2022 - 95.3 (#8 in FBS)
2021 - 86.9 (#81 in FBS)
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 9:45 pm
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

Bryce is #2 in "time to throw" on throws > 20 yards downfield. So the issue is not protection.


Thank you! Too many people want to blame the issues on the Oline when they are not the problem. Interesting that Slovis has had more time but one of the only QBs that has a worse rating on throws over 20 yards.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105507 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

Thank you! Too many people want to blame the issues on the Oline when they are not the problem. Interesting that Slovis has had more time but one of the only QBs that has a worse rating on throws over 20 yards.


There has to be some correlation there to the same thing Bryce seems to have issue with - holding it too long and forcing something when you should take 7-10 yds with your feet and move on.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:52 pm to
I blame Pete Golding for this.

Bastard.
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
8360 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:52 pm to
I didn't realize we'd even attempted a pass 20+ yards down field.

WRs need to get their arses open. Bryce doesn't seem to trust his WRs...kinda the knock on Jalen back then was that he wouldn't let it fly unless the receiver was wide open by a mile. Whoever our WR coach is has too much talent to not be able to find a guy or two that can get some separation...and we haven't even played a ranked team yet.
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 11:07 pm to
So much Id like to say here, but im too tired to peck it all on this phone- couple quick points:

Our perimeter blocking has not been up to standard. Kendrick Law had some great blocks in last game to spring some plays, but a lot of yards left on the field due to poor perimeter blocking. How many times smith, jeudy, ruggs, waddle etc. Score after getting one good perimeter block. Those guys LOVED to block for eachother.

Bennett short passes going for big yards has to do with perimeter blocking, but also having a total freak/top 10 pick to get the ball to. (Contrary to this board beliefs day 1 guys make a difference)

B.Y. not getting the ball off is not due to his processor, but rather the WRs not creating space. How many coverage sacks have we had vs 2 scrub teams this year ? Our receivers being covered like a blanket for over 5 seconds by scrub DBs.

Texas in second half dropped a safety and DARED us to go over top and we didnt even attempt to go over.

I also think not only the drops but the fact that a seemingly disproportionate amount of the drops would have extended drives/3rd downs. Two critical ones vs texas come to mind and a third catchable ball turned int.

Bryce played under center a lot in HS. He needs help. Ill say it again the WRs are lacking

Bryce Young is a helluva QB. Dont get twisted thinking this is on him. BoB clearly isnt the guy, our run game comes in chunks, and our WRs are not what we've been spoiled with these past years.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 11:42 pm
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7449 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

Bryce Young is a helluva QB. Dont get twisted thinking this is on him. BoB clearly isnt the guy, our run game comes in chunks, and our WRs are not what we've been spoiled with these past years.


Excellent points people don’t want to acknowledge. Alabama had had at least one day one receiver in the lineup since 2008.
Posted by BigFolks6347
Alabama
Member since Sep 2022
2219 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 7:48 am to
As much as I despise BOB playcalling, it’s time to admit Bryce is not having a good year at all. He seems to be playing to nonchalantly. There have been numerous times this year that him holding on to the all too long is causing our three and outs. He’s not taking the easy 5-7 yards on the ground to keep the defenses honest and that allows our young receivers to be bottled up. On top of that BOB route trees are too close together.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12981 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 7:53 am to
2011 is the only year since 08 that Bama didn't have an elite receiver.

Didn't need one with that defense, OL and Richardson that year.
Posted by bogeypro
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4052 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 7:53 am to
We have serious issues on offense bubbling under the surface... people don't want to believe it.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55852 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Our perimeter blocking has not been up to standard. Kendrick Law had some great blocks in last game to spring some plays, but a lot of yards left on the field due to poor perimeter blocking. How many times smith, jeudy, ruggs, waddle etc. Score after getting one good perimeter block. Those guys LOVED to block for eachother.

Bennett short passes going for big yards has to do with perimeter blocking, but also having a total freak/top 10 pick to get the ball to. (Contrary to this board beliefs day 1 guys make a difference)


Yep. That is IMO the main reason UGA has been so efficient. They are great at blocking on the outside.

It also helps that they've played horrible defenses, but still.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19061 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:01 am to
quote:

BoB clearly isnt the guy,


Praise the Lord, you have finally seen the light lol
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55852 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:05 am to
quote:

We have serious issues on offense bubbling under the surface... people don't want to believe it.




I actually believe that we are in good shape, as long as we are actively trying to fix our issues, which I have absolutely no reason to believe that we aren't. Obviously Saban sees the same thing everyone on here is seeing, and knows what needs to be fixed. We have the players. There doesn't seem to be any locker room bullshite so far this season. I'm excited to see where this season goes.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 8:07 am
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