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How did Alabama lose 50 spots in college rankings over the last 10 years?

Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Plainsman_Au
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:20 pm
That is a huge drop. I know that they tried to recruit students from other States for a while and promised money for highly sought scholarships, but things went down hard for them.

Not trying to create issues, but when trying to research Universities for recent High School grads, they throw up a red flag.

They used to be in the 80 range in National Universities. They were around the 200 mark at last check for high schools seniors searching for higher education.

That is not good my Tuscaloosa baws. I could see a couple of spots lost over time...but not "that" hard.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Plainsman_Au
Member since Jul 2022
269 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:22 pm to
Alabama lost 20 places, then 30 places, then 20 places again in 10 years.

Trouble in education?

Honest question.
Posted by WhaddupDawg
In your heart
Member since Apr 2022
3833 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:22 pm to
Blue haireds and gender studies haven
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34142 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

That is a huge drop. I know that they tried to recruit students from other States for a while and promised money for highly sought scholarships, but things went down hard for them.

Not trying to create issues, but when trying to research Universities for recent High School, they throw up a red flag.

They used to be in the 80 range in National Universities. They were around the 200 mark at last check for high schools seniors searching for higher education.

That is not good my Tuscaloosa baws. I could see a couple of spots lost.




Didn't they spread concentrations among the different campuses recently? The system is probably about where it's always been, but The individual campuses may fluctuate more because of what they are concentrated on providing.

IE: Medical and sciences at UAB more so than UAT.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19239 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:27 pm to
And yet our attendance is up to 38k, we’re building housing on campus at a breakneck pace, and will be over 40k soon.

Not seeing a problem here.

What’s your attendance at?
Posted by Plainsman_Au
Member since Jul 2022
269 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:31 pm to
UAB hates Alabama. I don't really know what other institutions that are valid, or that they "own" in their rankings otherwise. I don't think that they share rankings with other Universities in Alabama. Perhaps I am wrong, though.
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5757 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:32 pm to
Overall the University has concentrated on out of state recruiting and getting high-caliber students while also bringing in out of state tuition dollars and expanding the alumni base.
The New York Times did a study on UA a few years ago. Alabama's big bases are wealthy Texas suburbs, Atlanta and believe it or not the university has had a pipeline of wealthy families from New York and New England overall sending their kids to Alabama for almost a century.
You would soon see a kid from Jersey as you would Alabama. Over 50% of students are from out of state. Alabama puts a pretty good academic scholarship package together for students that may also have options for Ivies.
It's why Alabama has eclipsed many flagship state universities in both funding and quality of students. They're about 15 years ahead of the curve.

Certainly you can see a stark difference in the burgeoning campus of Alabama and Auburn. Auburn is what Alabama looked like 30 years ago.
Alabama nearly doubled in size just with the Bryce land purchase.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 10:34 pm
Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

What’s your attendance at?


It’s behind the preposition. Thank you for proving the point of the thread.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:34 pm to
Bama has been giving a lot of scholarships, etc and recruiting second-tier students from Louisiana for at least five years. They have made it pretty much the same cost to attend Bama as to go in-state to LSU with the LA Tops program.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34142 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

UAB hates Alabama.




Has nothing to do with my point.


quote:

I don't really know what other institutions that are valid, or that they "own" in their rankings otherwise. I don't think that they share rankings with other Universities in Alabama.





Who are you searching colleges for?


Because that is not what I said.

What criteria are the colleges being ranked on?


Different campuses of a system will be ranked individually.

There are some rankings that rank the systems as a whole, but those aren't usually rankings that are posted.

quote:

Perhaps I am wrong, though.




You are wrong.


But again: what criteria are the rankings you are searching using?
Posted by Plainsman_Au
Member since Jul 2022
269 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:38 pm to
At a School that does not end a sentence at "at"...and hasn't dropped substantially in educational standards by 70 spots, nationally, in 10 short years.

Most Universities only fluctuate 5 spots a year.

Just wondering.

Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5757 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:38 pm to
Also, the Alabama Law School is ranked in the top 25 in the nation.

Culverhouse is pretty high too in business school rankings as well as the school of communications.

And with the Shelby Taj Mahal, engineering is closing the gap quickly.
Posted by Plainsman_Au
Member since Jul 2022
269 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:39 pm to
You "don't see a problem".

Interesting.
Posted by Plainsman_Au
Member since Jul 2022
269 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:49 pm to
Sounds like a failed prep school...that didn't work out.

Why fail in every single educational ranking while charging more money?

Bad idea.

You over-promote yourselves like an on-line diploma company that only wants thousands and thousands of new accounts each year.

Stop it. Get your dignity back as a University.

Posted by Plainsman_Au
Member since Jul 2022
269 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:50 pm to
Thank you! I wanted to say that, but I knew what I was likely to deal with in this thread.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 10:53 pm to
As a UA grad myself, I couldn't care less how well academics are doing there. All that matters to me is the product the university puts on the field on Saturdays.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75413 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 11:01 pm to
These rankings mean nothing and they were either over rated before or underrated now

Posted by Plainsman_Au
Member since Jul 2022
269 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 11:03 pm to
But you dropped 80 places.

Why?

I think that you romanticize your law school too much.

Your people bring it up as a defensive mechanism while never actually knowing anyone on Earth that graduated from Alabama Law...ever.

It seems weak to diminish other people's education at your University while screaming about "muh law department."

There are areas of other learning(s) that combine into a thing called a "University" that don't drop 80 places as a school in a very short time-frame with very simple rankings. Talk about your Med-School... please.

You don't own that one either.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 11:08 pm
Posted by Plainsman_Au
Member since Jul 2022
269 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 11:11 pm to
There is a reason for "the drop", I assure you.

You did this to yourselves.
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
5813 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

What’s your attendance at? It’s behind the preposition. Thank you for proving the point of the thread.


If you want to get grammatical, “attendance” would not be behind the preposition. The relative pronoun “what” should be.
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