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Did the PtB not know Harsin would be radically different?

Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:06 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:06 am
I heard this morning Cubelic and McElroy talk about the coaching tree and philosophy that Harsin comes from. Chris Petersen and the “Boise” way was to find “OKGs” or “our kind of guys.” Recruiting was less about impressing the hottest, highest rated recruits and more so about finding guys that could be molded into competitive players that fit the culture and system. Some coaches take top rated guys no matter what because pipelines, hype, and character risks are worth taking the chance on top talent even if they don’t really fit. But the Petersen philosophy is to take the right guys and not worry about star ratings.

It seems like this was already known about Harsin. No one had a stellar report about his recruiting prowess at Boise. Certainly a search committee would know his philosophy on recruiting prior to coming to Auburn. It might help explain some of the recruiting “woes.” Harsin was recruiting the South differently than anyone else.

I’m not saying it’s a good plan to take such an approach, but it seems odd that anyone would be surprised by his different way of doing things. He skipped the Georgia shindig because for him, it’s not part of his recruiting plan.

If we hired him to do HIS thing, it seems reckless and foolish to fire him for doing what he was hired to do.

Maybe we just realized it’s such a risk that it’s worth cutting ties early. Or maybe Harsin is a total crook that was breaking laws and needs to be fired for cause.

But it’s definitely lunacy to hire this guy and not give him some time to accomplish his goals.
Posted by CorchJay
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:10 am to
The "Boise Way" has not worked anywhere other then Boise.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:14 am to
We knew his style of recruiting was different, but the assumption was he would take those 3*/4* guys that are everywhere in AL/GA and develop them. Yet we were in Oregon, Louisiana, and losing out on Conference USA transfers. Everyone might disagree with how we got here, but Harsin has a ton of fault with his shitastic recruiting.
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:19 am to
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The "Boise Way" has not worked anywhere other then Boise.
chris Petersen did well
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44992 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:21 am to
Chris P did nothing but maintain and then got them on probation. Dirk Koetter got them going.
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3872 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:22 am to
18th in recruiting after year 1. Oh it’s horrible. Fire him now! What rank did he need to keep his job? Just curious
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
4550 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:22 am to
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Chris P did nothing but maintain and then got them on probation. Dirk Koetter got them going.


What
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:23 am to
What are you confused about?
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:24 am to
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What are you confused about?


I’m confused about when Dirk Koetter got Washington going
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 11:26 am
Posted by AUTubaHerd
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:25 am to
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The "Boise Way" has not worked anywhere other then Boise.


Well, now we may get the “Tennessee Way”.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50754 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:25 am to
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We knew his style of recruiting was different, but the assumption was he would take those 3*/4* guys that are everywhere in AL/GA and develop them. Yet we were in Oregon, Louisiana, and losing out on Conference USA transfers. Everyone might disagree with how we got here, but Harsin has a ton of fault with his shitastic recruiting.

Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44992 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:27 am to
Dirk got BSU off the ground. Dan Hawkins, CP, and Harsin all did well to maintain, but never won anything outside of BSU.
Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:29 am to
Petersen did get UW to a playoff appearance where they got smoked by Bama. But yeah, Hawkins bombed at CU HARD
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:31 am to
Peterson recruited pretty well at Washington. He didn’t recruit that great at Boise.

Peterson never had any big time wins at Washington as well.


Boise way pretty much stinks
Posted by WarCamEagle
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:37 am to
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Dirk got BSU off the ground. Dan Hawkins, CP, and Harsin all did well to maintain, but never won anything outside of BSU.


Boise never finished Top 10 until Petersen. He finished

2006 5
2007 NR
2008 11
2009 4
2010 9
2011 8
2012 18
2013 NR

Boise hasnt been ranked Top 10 ANY WEEK since Petersen left nine years ago. Petersen is a top five coach of the BCS ERA. He beat top teams with 2-3 star players.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 11:38 am
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21100 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:43 am to
Like I had said before Petersen got some run the first couple years at Washington in recruiting because he was a big name. He started falling off on recruiting and his last season he went 8-5 and left the roster bare for the next guy.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:13 pm to
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The "Boise Way" has not worked anywhere other then Boise.

no there are several that use that philosophy BUT

we should not forget he signed like 10 4 STAR players...

seems that that philosophy scales up well
Posted by MTurbo
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2010
1904 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:18 pm to
Was this a PtB hire though? I think they were shut out and now they're not happy and rattling the cages.
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
7777 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:18 pm to
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Well, now we may get the “Tennessee Way”.


Dang it Lanier, you prophetic genius! You spoke it into existence.
Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:20 pm to
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Well, now we may get the “Tennessee Way”.



Does this mean we'll hire 2 Head Coaches, fire an AD, and then hire a 3rd, who is actually introduced as the HC?
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