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KJ Jefferson
Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:23 pm
This guy made an 11 minute video saying KJ is the most underrated QB in college football.
Underrated YouTube Link.
Underrated YouTube Link.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:34 pm to FayetteNAM
He has shown tremendous growth this year. If he shows marginal improvement next season he will be one of the best. Burks helped him look even better this season but he is a dark horse going into next year for sure. Hopefully the WR's coming in can fill that role.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 12:04 am to FayetteNAM
He throws a beautiful deep ball but for whatever reason Briles would rather call double reverse WR passes than let his QB try to make a big play down the field.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 12:45 am to Jon Ham
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He throws a beautiful deep ball but for whatever reason Briles would rather call double reverse WR passes than let his QB try to make a big play down the field.
If you think he would rather call a double reverse than a deep ball, and it’s not because we only have 1 receiver worth a shite, I’d say you aren’t really paying attention. The other option is you are being willfully dishonest, because you dislike Briles.
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 12:47 am
Posted on 1/9/22 at 5:11 am to Jon Ham
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He throws a beautiful deep ball but for whatever reason Briles would rather call double reverse WR passes than let his QB try to make a big play down the field.
Bryers is so polarizing. You got people that can't stand him, and people like Fayettenam wants to swing from Bryers' ole nutsack. I'm somehwere in the middle.
I do think our program needs continuity right now, so I want this coaching staff to stay together for at least one more season.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 10:35 am to FayetteNAM
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If you think he would rather call a double reverse than a deep ball, and it’s not because we only have 1 receiver worth a shite, I’d say you aren’t really paying attention.
That makes a lot of sense. We don’t have good WR’s so let’s let a WR who can’t throw the ball as well as our QB throw the ball to a bad WR. That’s sure to be more successful (it wasn’t).
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The other option is you are being willfully dishonest, because you dislike Briles
I don’t love him or hate him. He’s good, not great. Just calling it as I see it. I don’t even see how what I said could be controversial. The plays speak for themselves.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 12:01 pm to Arkapigdiesel
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Fayettenam wants to swing from Bryers' ole nutsack.
I would like to hear what offense that isn’t Bama, Ohio State or other prolific offenses full of stars you want to see.
Briles offense is more like a 60/40 pass everywhere else. I heard on two different podcasts that we were a 70/30 run to pass this year. Having an offensive line coach picking a new guy, we will get another coach that runs it even more. Especially when you look at what he did with Kirby. Kirby is failing because even with all the 5 stars he has collected, he refuses to pass, just leans on the run. In all the interviews I have never heard him saying Briles we need to throw here. I have heard him say on multiple occasions, Briles we need to run here.
And before you say but Kirby has made it to the national championship twice! He also has an all world defense, only weakness is the secondary, which is probably as good if not better than ours without Catalon. Every time he has had a QB that could sling it, he didn’t use them and ran them off
Posted on 1/9/22 at 12:37 pm to Jon Ham
quote:This is just disingenuous. We got chunk gains off that WR pass play multiple times during the season, and most of the time they were throwing to Burks.
We don’t have good WR’s so let’s let a WR who can’t throw the ball as well as our QB throw the ball to a bad WR. That’s sure to be more successful (it wasn’t).
Posted on 1/9/22 at 12:44 pm to Drewbie
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This is just disingenuous. We got chunk gains off that WR pass play multiple times during the season, and most of the time they were throwing to Burks.
Our WRs finished the year combined 1/6 passing for 27 yards, 0 TDs and an INT. It worked one (1) time for 27 yards.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 12:58 pm to BallHawg10
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Our WRs finished the year combined 1/6 passing for 27 yards, 0 TDs and an INT. It worked one (1) time for 27 yards.
There were times we did same setup and burned them for yards through the ground from them expecting it again.
Something underappreciated about briles is how he used plays and formations to set himself up for success later. There are better examples than this but it puts some context on why we tried this throw 6 times
Posted on 1/9/22 at 1:06 pm to BallHawg10
quote:Now pull the stats where they tucked and ran.
Our WRs finished the year combined 1/6 passing for 27 yards, 0 TDs and an INT. It worked one (1) time for 27 yards.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 2:58 pm to Drewbie
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This is just disingenuous. We got chunk gains off that WR pass play multiple times during the season, and most of the time they were throwing to Burks.
It worked once against aTm and it was an underthrown pass that time.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 3:04 pm to FayetteNAM
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FayetteNAM
I probably came across as negative by saying that above about you swinging from his tater sac.
Didn't mean it negatively, I just meant to say you're firmly in Bryers camp, and I guess in a roundabout way, I am too. I've been frustrated by the offensive play calling at times, but I think everyone (including myself) should wait until we get a couple of more recruiting classes in before judging any of our coaches.
We are at a point where we can't start firing coaches. We need stability right now, not shite to be in flux with staff turnover.
For the first time in many many years, I feel like we are in good hands with CSP. Let's not throw a rat hair in the tuna by firing coaches that don't deserve to be fired.
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:38 pm to Hawgeye
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It worked once against aTm and it was an underthrown pass that time.
It doesn’t always have to be a pass, it’s the receivers discretion. They can tuck and run at any point.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:50 pm to Arkapigdiesel
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We are at a point where we can't start firing coaches. We need stability right now, not shite to be in flux with staff turnover.
We lose Briles right now, and all these WR we have recruited are gone. They didn’t come here to be blockers.
We threw the ball 314 times this year out of 902 plays. That’s a 34.8% throw to 65% run. Let’s just bring in Cheney and finish off what passing chances we have going for us.
I don’t think Briles is the best OC, that would be Bobby or Kiffin, but we aren’t getting either one of them with them being HC.
I think Briles is a good OC though, better OC than our current DC. We moved the ball with ease this year until stupid penalties from false starts killed our momentum. We didn’t stop anyone this year, even in our best 4 games, the last 4, we didn’t really stop anyone.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:59 pm to FayetteNAM
I think KJ needs to get his weight down....he looked a solid 250-255 by the end of the year.
I think if he would drop to the 240-245 range he would be a little quicker and just as hard to tackle.
I think if he would drop to the 240-245 range he would be a little quicker and just as hard to tackle.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 9:05 pm to theenemy
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I think KJ needs to get his weight down
I think everyone believes that. Wasn’t the goal like 225-235 after Spring Game? I don’t think he ever got there.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:14 am to Hawgeye
quote:It's an RPO. The receiver makes the read based on how the secondary reacts to Burks streaking. We ran the play multiple times where the read was to tuck and run. Point being the play worked as many times as it didn't. Lots of things to bitch about Briles, but that play ain't one.
It worked once against aTm and it was an underthrown pass that time.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 6:17 am
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:35 am to Drewbie
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Now pull the stats where they tucked and ran.
Fair question. So I finally got around to doing this.
First thing I did was go pull all rushing attempts by our WRs. There were 19 total - 14 by Burks and 5 by Warren. I didn’t have a great way to know which ones were a WR double pass that they scrambled on vs just a designed run. So I went and found highlights of as many as I could (15/19). I’ll detail them here.
Burks:
- Rice. 1 att (Jet Sweep) for (-2)
- GSU. 1 att (Toss) for 2
- A&M. 1 att (Jet Sweep to Burks who then stepped back to pass. Then scrambled for 14 yards.)
- OM. 1 att (End around) for 1
- UAPB. 2 att (Jet Sweep) for 49 yard TD. Couldn’t find video of the other attempt but ESPN PBP describes it as (Burks rushed to UAPB 39 for 7 yards.)
- MSU. 3 att. (2 End-Arounds and 1 Pitch to him out of the backfield) for 39
- LSU. 1 att. (End-Around) for 5.
- Bama. 2 att. (End-Around and Jet Sweep) for (-4)
- Mizzou. 2 att for 1 yard total. Couldn’t find video of these but ESPN PBP says - (Burks rushed Left Guard to Ark 22 for 2 yards.) and (Burks rushed left end to Ark 24 for (-1).
Warren:
- OM. 1 att. (End-Around) for 11
- UAPB. 1 att. No video of this but ESPN PBP says - (Warren rushed to UAPB 41 for 5 yards.)
- Mizzou. 1 att. (End-Around) for 32
- PSU. 2 att (Option for 1) and (Jet Sweep for -7).
So let’s summarize. Granting you that I can’t find highlights for 4 of the above mentioned 19 rushes by our WRs (though the PBP descriptions don’t sound promising. Plus, all 4 of those rushes combine for a total of 13 yards or 3.25 ypc), it seems like there was one (1) time where we had a WR step back to pass and scramble for a nice gain. It was Burks in the A&M game scrambling for 14 yards. The other 18 rushing attempts by the WRs do not appear to be initial pass looks that turned into rushes.
So, taken altogether, we can say we ran that play 7 times and we were 1/6 passing for 27 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT, and 1 scramble for 14 yards. So we were successful on it 2/7 times, or a little over 25%. Not to mention many of the times it was unsuccessful were bad bad decisions (i.e. Penn St right before half.)
All of this is not for me to bash Briles. I am in agreement with most everyone else here that he has done what seems to be a great job developing QBs and running the offense for the most part. I’m just pointing out that he certainly has flaws in play calling at times that seem totally unnecessary. Another maddening one that I don’t have any research on is how many times we throw short of the sticks on 3rd down. But I know some of that is on KJ so I’ll let that one go for now ;)
All in all, Briles is great. Just gets in his own way unnecessarily sometimes. Go Hogs.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 9:38 am
Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:37 pm to oklahogjr
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Something underappreciated about briles is how he used plays and formations to set himself up for success later.
This is part of the OC job
KB isn't some cutting edge dude at this point. He's pretty run of the mill in this league.
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