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Future of CFB
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:12 pm
I'm from Virginia and attended Miami. I have family and high school friends who are graduates of UVA, VT, UNC and Wake Forest. My wife is an FSU grad and one of her cousins attended Clemson. So I am deep into the ACC.
A close friend of mine grew up in Ohio and has 2 Big Ten degrees, Ohio State and Illinois. He says that the P5 is very soon going to be only a P2 because the SEC and Big Ten will have so much money that everybody else will be minor league in comparison. He expects both the Big ten and the SEC to expand to 20 or maybe even 24 members.
I'd like to know what SEC fans think about all that.
A close friend of mine grew up in Ohio and has 2 Big Ten degrees, Ohio State and Illinois. He says that the P5 is very soon going to be only a P2 because the SEC and Big Ten will have so much money that everybody else will be minor league in comparison. He expects both the Big ten and the SEC to expand to 20 or maybe even 24 members.
I'd like to know what SEC fans think about all that.
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Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:12 pm to VACane
First Post was a goodun.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:13 pm to VACane
I’m fine with that. Have 2 conferences and divisions like the NFL.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:17 pm to VACane
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He says that the P5 is very soon going to be only a P2 because the SEC and Big Ten will have so much money that everybody else will be minor league in comparison.
Hate to break the news to you...
Already underway. Clemson's run is over. It's a 2 horse race now.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:19 pm to VACane
Then it will be Big Four. SEC West & East, Big Ten Losers & Lickspittles or whatever stupid names they call their divisions.
It's basically already Big Four, so I see no change.
NIL and CFP expansion are far more grater threats than conference imbalance.
It's basically already Big Four, so I see no change.
NIL and CFP expansion are far more grater threats than conference imbalance.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:20 pm to VACane
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I'd like to know what SEC fans think about all that
We're a basketball conference now.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:24 pm to VACane
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I'd like to know what SEC fans think about all that.
I'd say it's semi-pro ball now - grafted onto some bullshite notion of academics that makes certain Boomers feel better about it. And the academic angle really is a Boomer thing.
I don't much care, really, which school they graft onto. It's semi-pro ball - with a rotating roster, which makes it interesting.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:25 pm to VACane
Ray Charles saw that coming
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:39 pm to VACane
Play-for-pay (athletes being employees of the university) will be the big shoe that drops. SCOTUS rules on it next summer.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:43 pm to theenemy
Who goes where?
My Big Ten friend says his conference has 2 plans. The one he prefers is that it goes after the ACC to get fully into recruiting the southeast. That plan has the Big Ten taking 9 ACC teams and leaving the final slot for Notre Dame. The 9 he wants are UVA, VT, UNC, Duke, Clemson, Georgia Tech, FSU, Miami and Syracuse.
The other Big Ten other is that it takes 9 schools from the Pac plus Kansas.
If something along these lines happens, I'd much more prefer to have my home state and my Canes in the SEC. Would the SEC take 8 ACC schools?
My Big Ten friend says his conference has 2 plans. The one he prefers is that it goes after the ACC to get fully into recruiting the southeast. That plan has the Big Ten taking 9 ACC teams and leaving the final slot for Notre Dame. The 9 he wants are UVA, VT, UNC, Duke, Clemson, Georgia Tech, FSU, Miami and Syracuse.
The other Big Ten other is that it takes 9 schools from the Pac plus Kansas.
If something along these lines happens, I'd much more prefer to have my home state and my Canes in the SEC. Would the SEC take 8 ACC schools?
Posted on 12/26/21 at 1:03 pm to VACane
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The 9 he wants are UVA,
UVA should be top of everyone's list to steal from ACC.
Extraordinarily wealthy alumni, well postured to mobilize wealth and corporations for NIL.
Pac isn't dead if USC, Cal, and Stanford follow suit as well with renergizing their alumni to begin to invest in the NIL opportunity.
Once they figure out how to legally structure these NIL funds into tax deductible organizations that "sponsor" athletes, a lot of $$$ will be willingly provided.
It would be funny to watch the IVY League re-emerge as a power conference in all sports not named football.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 1:04 pm to VACane
Hate to break it to you hoss, but it's already happened.
The money is in football, and as long as the Tobacco Road basketball schools are calling the shots in the ACC, it is doomed to stay 3 steps behind the SEC and Big 10, at best.
Big 12 is dying before our eyes with OU and Texas 9n the way out, and the west coast doesn't give a damn about college sports.
SEC and Big 10 will take the programs they want. The teams left behind will become FCS programs in football.
The money is in football, and as long as the Tobacco Road basketball schools are calling the shots in the ACC, it is doomed to stay 3 steps behind the SEC and Big 10, at best.
Big 12 is dying before our eyes with OU and Texas 9n the way out, and the west coast doesn't give a damn about college sports.
SEC and Big 10 will take the programs they want. The teams left behind will become FCS programs in football.
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Posted on 12/26/21 at 1:11 pm to Krampus
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money is in football
Without a doubt, but the biggest gains are to be made in the non Big 2 sports. Once NIL monies are diverted to offset traditionally non-revenue producing sports, football and basketball programs will be all the more profitable.
The landscape for "dominant" programs and conferences stands to change a great deal
Next few years should be really interesting
Posted on 12/26/21 at 1:16 pm to VACane
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I'm from Virginia and attended Miami. I have family and high school friends who are graduates of UVA, VT, UNC and Wake Forest. My wife is an FSU grad and one of her cousins attended Clemson. So I am deep into the ACC.
This doesn’t give you any extra ability to look into the future.
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A close friend of mine grew up in Ohio and has 2 Big Ten degrees, Ohio State and Illinois. He says that the P5 is very soon going to be only a P2 because the SEC and Big Ten will have so much money that everybody else will be minor league in comparison. He expects both the Big ten and the SEC to expand to 20 or maybe even 24 members.
Your friend may be right. But what would having two degrees from IL and OSU have to do with this?
Posted on 12/26/21 at 1:30 pm to VACane
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I'd like to know what SEC fans think about all that.
I believe the future of college football is dog shite any way you look at it. Whether it is something like you are hypothesizing or something else. It has already started.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 1:58 pm to dstone12
He's all Big Ten all the time. He's more a Big Ten fan than an Ohio State fan
Posted on 12/26/21 at 1:59 pm to VACane
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He says that the P5 is very soon going to be only a P2
It’s basically already happening. The track we’re on is going to end up looking more like pro divisions rather than the historic college conferences. Idk about everyone else but to me Maryland will never really be a “big ten” team and Texas and OU will never be “sec teams.” I don’t mean that as a knock on those schools. You can call a 20 team conference the “sec” or “big ten” but at some point it becomes unrecognizable and is just a brand.
I’ve said it before, 5 years ago Saban said cfb needed a commissioner and he’s been vindicated. Right now everyone is looking out for #1, so it’s either adapt or get left behind. They’s really no one looking out for the integrity of the sport.
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Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:03 pm to VACane
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Future of CFB
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:05 pm to VACane
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I'm from Virginia and attended Miami. I have family and high school friends who are graduates of UVA, VT, UNC and Wake Forest. My wife is an FSU grad and one of her cousins attended Clemson. So I am deep into the ACC.
A close friend of mine grew up in Ohio and has 2 Big Ten degrees, Ohio State and Illinois. He says that the P5 is very soon going to be only a P2 because the SEC and Big Ten will have so much money that everybody else will be minor league in comparison. He expects both the Big ten and the SEC to expand to 20 or maybe even 24 members.
I'd like to know what SEC fans think about all that.
For that to happen the SEC would need to figure out how to get rid of the dead weight programs like Moo U, Ole Miss, Vandy & USC
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:10 pm to VACane
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He's all Big Ten all the time. He's more a Big Ten fan than an Ohio State fan
The tipping point CFB is when players become compensated employees of a university. No college is going to take on that potential financial sinkhole. They cannot afford CTE lawsuits, collective bargaining, injury costs, etc... At this point CFB as we know it is dead.
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