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Posted on 12/5/23 at 2:53 pm
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5957 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 2:53 pm
I guess the NCAA is giving up. Check out this proposal. The schools will have direct control over NIL payments.

LINK
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50785 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 2:56 pm to
So for a school like Vandy, it's either pay or drop out of the SEC
The end result of something like this will be bad for college sports I'm afraid
It was better off when cheating happened under the table
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5957 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:06 pm to
Especially since 30k is the minimum amount. Texas and A&M will be able to flat out outbid anyone every year.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
5789 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

The end result of something like this will be bad for college sports I'm afraid


Because this system is working very well?
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
5789 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Especially since 30k is the minimum amount. Texas and A&M will be able to flat out outbid anyone every year.


Schools will have to be better with their $. A large swath of SEC/Big 10 schools are bringing in north of $100 million. $3 million for a football roster ain’t bad.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5957 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:38 pm to
But everything you spend on football must be matched to female sports.
Posted by TC Kidd
Member since Nov 2023
776 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:48 pm to
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But everything you spend on football must be matched to female sports.

And here lies the problem
Posted by ReversePiggie
In non-Arkansas US
Member since Sep 2021
3877 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

It was better off when cheating happened under the table

Oh yeah, that made all the difference in the world... or absolutely none at all. We just see it more clearly now as opposed to the rampant speculation in the past about bagmen.

The same teams that were openly cheating to win are still paying, just paying much better.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
7459 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:24 pm to
I don't think this works like you might think. Guys, some of the highest NIL earners in college are women. Hot gymnasts and swimmers earning big bucks on instagram and other web sources. T&A still wins. Getting that NIL under license to the schools for redistribution will be huge.

Of course, this may mean your hallowed institutions of learning become some of the largest distributers of NSFW content known.
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
2883 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Especially since 30k is the minimum amount. Texas and A&M will be able to flat out outbid anyone every year.


Posted by GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Member since Dec 2014
2217 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:58 pm to
How would players NOT be considered employees under this proposal?

Current NIL rules provide a loophole, that this would appear to close

The proposal argues that due to the rigors of a potential 17-game schedule the players would need to be compensated. However half of their compensation would have to go to women's sports

Do Livvy Dunne and Caitlin Clark currently share their NIL money with male student-athletes at their respective schools?

Under the proposal, boosters will no longer direct funds to specific sports or projects thus allowing the school's administration to redistribute funds in a manner similar to our federal government.

Time to tell the NCAA where to go and create a new athletics association. Take the SEC, Big 10 and a handful of others and breakaway from the meddling incompetence of the NCAA Gestapo

Posted by 49 to nada
In aggy and gooner heads, rent free
Member since Sep 2023
4896 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

Especially since 30k is the minimum amount. Texas and A&M will be able to flat out outbid anyone every year.
aggy will probably go nuts with that, but the flagship University doesn't aspire to be a football factory. The Longhorn football program exists because of the University of Texas, not the other way round. (Such as diploma mills like BloU)
Posted by Aggie in TN
Franklin TN
Member since Jun 2022
2305 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:29 pm to
So 150k cars are not a part of the deal? I think it’s public knowledge how much the Horn OL is making.

Also, I feel really sorry for the poors out there.

Goodbye Vandy, Missouri and that Miss Schools.
Posted by Omahawgs15
Member since Mar 2023
5687 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:34 pm to
College football is ruined big time
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
3497 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:44 pm to
I really don't think NIL is as big of an issue as people make it out to be. At one point the two top ranked DL in Louisiana this year were committed to A&M. One has since decommitted and is now expected to sign with LSU. He decommitted after Robinson left for Syracuse. If you believe the experts on our recruiting websites we offered comparable NIL packages to what A&M did. The difference was we didn't have a DL coach this year because we lost him to health issues and A&M had one of the best recruiters in the country at the position. The point I'm trying to make is that A&M could outspend LSU if they wanted to for a particular player, but at the end of the day the player's market value is what it is, and most teams are not going to over pay for a kid who has never played a down of college ball. Thus, a program like LSU can compete with A&M for certain players in a NIL world. Relationships with the coaches still matter in recruiting. It's not just about money.
Posted by TC Kidd
Member since Nov 2023
776 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:40 pm to
This has nothing to do with NIL. When the school starts paying, there will be Title IX implications.
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