re: What are we doing, seriously?????

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I’m old enough to remember when everyone was saying, “Highly doubt we can do worse than Gus and his micky mouse offense.”

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How's Gus doing these days?

I still stand by firing Gus and I am glad we are in a cycle to find a good coach. I dont want to just dwell in waters of mediocrity that move less than pond water. Do something or get out.


STFU

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Everyone fawning over Sumrall or Golesh need to realize that all these coaches who’ve succeeded at smaller schools are absolute gambles. Sometimes they do well,

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I'm not so sure that even "sometimes they do well."

Tell me the winner of an SEC championship that was primarily known for prior success at a smaller school.

Pat Dye, just maybe, but he went to UGA and coached at UA and was good friends with Bear Bryant.

Jim Donnan, Curly Hallman, Billy Napier, Franchione, Bill Curry, Butch Jones, Derek Dooley (hybrid) all sucked.

The path to hope is some sort of winning experience at a big time program.

Terry Bowden - but the program collapsed and he did not win an official championship.

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Everyone fawning over Sumrall or Golesh need to realize that all these coaches who’ve succeeded at smaller schools are absolute gambles. Sometimes they do well, other times you are writing a check for another $15 million 2-3 years later.

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Son, you are on week ~4 of fawning over a coach who is currently on pace to have his third straight losing season at Auburn. Something that almost never happens at this program. Nobody is fawning over either of these two by the way, they are correctly pointing out that both have been successful and are identified as up and coming prospects.

Correct - Sumrall or Golesh could come here and fail. At which point your are in no different situation than we are at right now with Freeze. So I'm not sure what exactly you think your point is supposed to be.

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His record at Liberty was no different than what Sumrall’s record at Tulane looks like. Heck he guided Liberty to a #17 finish one season with a 10-1 record.

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This is a load of shite. Freeze had one big season at Liberty and otherwise finished with 8 wins in each of his final two seasons. His tenure ENDED with three straight losses. Sumrall won 9 games in year one at Tulane and is currently on pace to win 10+ in year two. On top of the 10+ games that he won in both seasons at Troy. Meaning that he is very likely to have 10+ wins in 3 of his 4 career seasons as a head coach. This is absolutely not the same thing as Freeze at Liberty.

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I still stand by firing Gus

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Right. Which is why I put the blame for where our program sits at the moment squarely on the folks like you who got us into this mess.

We are where we are right now because most people are stupid and can’t use their brain.

People wanted Gus fired because he went 6-5. But they refuse to comprehend that because of Covid, it was an all-SEC regular season. Gus went 6-4 in SEC play that year with losses to the Final #1, #4, and #7 teams.

In a normal year with OOC games added into the schedule, that’s the equivalent of a 9-3 type season. That Auburn team beat Tennessee by 13 points… beat Ole Miss in Oxford by 7 points… beat LSU by 36 points!

But you and your ilk knew better. Some of us were saying in 2020, “Be careful what you wish for.” Some of us were saying we better have a plan.

Now your type are shitting on us for once again urging caution, because you think you know everything. Sorry, you lost all credibility two firings ago.

I hate losing to Top 15 teams by 6, 6, 7, and 10 points. But I obviously realize those scores are close enough that with a few tweaks, we might soon turn a corner.

Just wait until Sumrall is losing those games by 35 points (as he did to Ole Miss this year). Yall are going to be wishing we at least could at least keeping things close like we used to.

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Right. Which is why I put the blame for where our program sits at the moment squarely on the folks like you who got us into this mess.

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bullshite. Gus was here for 8 seasons and went south shortly after the first year. He got fired on his own accord. You sound like an idiot.

If Auburn has an opening and doesnt at least contact Kiffen Ill quit watching. It would look bad for Auburn to get turned down then he accepts the Florida job

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But there is nothing in his resume that jumps out any different than how Freeze did at Liberty.

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I didn't want us to hire Freeze because I felt his offense died by the same rules change that largely left Malzahn offensively mediocre and I felt his personal issues would eventually create problems. I wouldn't say those are the same issues with Sumrall but you also can't ignore that at Auburn, Freeze has uniquely failed in ways I personally haven't seen in my lifetime. He owns two of the worst home loss records in Jordan Hare. He's close to being the only coach in most of our lifetimes to turn in three losing seasons in a row. He owns two of the most embarrassing home losses I have personally ever seen at Auburn. He has spent considerable money on two objective failures at QB, his offenses have ranked near the bottom of the SEC and low nationwide every year he has been here and he was hired primarily for his offensive abilities.

It was argued that Freeze - despite having his butt handed to him by teams like New Mexico State - would explode with the talent and investment he would benefit from at Auburn. That has not been the case and the trends are not improving at all despite significant increases in roster talent. We don't know what Sumrall would do. We don't know what Franklin would do. We know what Freeze can do.

Definitely a pussy or three among our fan base for certain.

Daddy Freeze is winning this weekend and will get an extension.

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Some of us were saying in 2020, “Be careful what you wish for.” Some of us were saying we better have a plan.

Now your type are shitting on us for once again urging caution, because you think you know everything. Sorry, you lost all credibility two firings ago.

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i think we are all in agreement that firing Gustav after the covid season was a questionable decision, especially since the “plan” was to promote a 62-year-old guy who’s HC record was 9-36

where we don’t agree is that hiring Freezus was a very bad decision

and keeping him just because the next guy “may he worse” even as we’re finding new innovative ways to lose games we should have won is arguably the worst decision we can make