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re: "Tried to do their own thing"
Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:25 am to AUtigR24
Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:25 am to AUtigR24
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There is little discipline and a lot of sloppiness....
He doesn't demand the attention to detail or effort some other coaches do. It's frustrating in that sense but can also be rewarding when we're on fire and playing with a lot of effort.
If I am reading tihs right, I think what you are trying to allude to w/ "attention to detail" and "discipline" just don't fit philosophically with Bruce's offensive system. Bruce gives players an absurd amount of freedom to counteract some weaknesses inherent in a modified flex.
While freedom lets players make recognize & exploit mismatches or openings, it also puts more decision making on the player. As you give the player more opportunities to make unilaterally make decisions, you run a greater risk of sloppy, undisciplined play + guys calling their own number for hero ball
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I think to make it to the round of 32 with this team was a pretty good job considering Bryce is streaky as well
Bryce was one of our more consistent players before injury. 10 of the first 11 SEC games Bryce had an eFG% of 50+% including 6 of >60%
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and only shoots 3s.
Bryce shot 4.5 2FGA per game on about 44%. That's enough for a 3PT specialist to keep the D honest. If we are relying on Bryce to regularly slash in the lane we got problems
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Horace wouldn't start for Troy U,
You are an idiot.
Horace Stats
Off Rebound % - #304 nationally
Def Rebound % - #112 nationally (team lead)
Block % - #51 nationally
Steal % - #44 nationally (team lead)
FT% - 72.1%
Horace shot 52.7% with 58 2FGM. For comparison, Chuma Okeke shot 50.9% with 58 2FGM
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Herron is streaky.
Very streaky in SEC play. Never knew what to expect out of him in any given game. He has been garbaged the past 4 games
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:29 am to Rhino5
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23-3 with McLemore
3-5 without McLemore
It was Bryce's shoulder/foot injuries that happened roughly at the same time too.
We lost McLemore who spaced the court for everyone. Then our only shooter who could hit a contested 3FG somewhat reliably turned to trash right as defenses weren't getting spaced
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:06 pm to GenesChin
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Horace wouldn't start for Troy U
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You are an idiot.
Horace Stats
Off Rebound % - #304 nationally
Def Rebound % - #112 nationally (team lead)
Block % - #51 nationally
Steal % - #44 nationally (team lead)
FT% - 72.1%
Horace shot 52.7% with 58 2FGM. For comparison, Chuma Okeke shot 50.9% with 58 2FGM
Thank you. Horace was the only dude on the team who played with high effort from start to finish these last few games.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:24 pm to rbWarEagle
I said it in another thread, but it was amazing to me to see people bash Spencer. The guy stepped into a role where he had to change the way he played just to stay on the floor knowing he had no one behind him.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:41 pm to Smoke7024
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The guy stepped into a role where he had to change the way he played
On a per 40min basis, Spencer was averaging 13.4 pts/40 since McLemore went out
For comparison, DeSean Murray averaged 10.5 pts/40 since McLemore went out
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I said it in another thread, but it was amazing to me to see people bash Spencer.
He is an extremely valuable high energy hustle guy off the bench who gives great 2nd team defensive minutes and occasionally some offensive output.
For a guy who was supposed to be a 3rd string utility center for AU, he's been great
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:00 pm to GenesChin
Sometimes freedom can be restrictive because it can paralyze you with indecision
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:16 pm to Zeroforwinger
I love Spencer but he is so clumsy and loses balls frequently. You can never question his effort, if he could work on his hands like he did that turn around hook shot then he will be great for us.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:28 pm to beatbammer
Not sure what he could have done differently. With only eight scholarship players, and nobody over 6’-08”, options were limited. You can’t bench a player when you don’t have a replacement.
Had we gotten hot and made a ton of 3’s, nobody would complain. He would have been a genius.
So, what do y’all think he should have done differently? Besides suiting up himself of course.
Had we gotten hot and made a ton of 3’s, nobody would complain. He would have been a genius.
So, what do y’all think he should have done differently? Besides suiting up himself of course.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:49 pm to Zeroforwinger
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Sometimes freedom can be restrictive because it can paralyze you with indecision
Surprisingly, a big part of including that freedom is so that guys don't get paralyzed going through motions instead of recognizing scoring opportunities
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:53 pm to jrljr
This team needed a slasher so badly these past couple of weeks.
I think Samir will fill that hole nicely. Heron is good at times at going to the bucket but not in the traditional slashing sense. He is really only comfortable coming off a curl and going downhill. Hoping Doughty is a better version of Dunans.
I think Samir will fill that hole nicely. Heron is good at times at going to the bucket but not in the traditional slashing sense. He is really only comfortable coming off a curl and going downhill. Hoping Doughty is a better version of Dunans.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:53 pm to rbWarEagle
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Thank you. Horace was the only dude on the team who played with high effort from start to finish these last few games.
His effort is not the issue. He's just not that good. He's not an offensive weapon at all unless in dunk range. He was much better coming off the bench and playing defense for for a few minutes. When he has to play the whole game we're severely handicapping ourselves. Love the effort but he wouldn't be playing if we weren't down to 7 or 8 scholly guys
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:53 pm to auburnnyc94
Is it not possible that Bruce tried to coach these guys and saw all of this coming too, but because we are a young team we still have some learning/growing to do? People overreact so much to me. We were in uncharted waters for every player on the team and they didn't play good enough. It happens. I'm interested in seeing how this years run helps them going forward. I guarantee they will have their best off season yet after using this finish as motivation.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:57 pm to auburnnyc94
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I think Samir will fill that hole nicely
I'm excited to see him play. Unless we have some kind of mass exodus, next year's squad should be the most talented we've seen in a long, long time on the plains.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:06 pm to AUtigR24
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He's not an offensive weapon at all unless in dunk range
You do realize that of Okeke/Murray/Spencer, Spencer has the highest Points/40minutes since Anfernee went out right? Not only is Spencer #20 in 2FG% in SEC play, he has made some mid range jump shots, hook shots and a few drives to the basket on top of >70% FT
As I said earlier, you either don't know who Horace Spencer is or you have a really sh*tty take here
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:25 pm to GenesChin
I’m a little frightened. It appears that we have agreed on something for the second time inside a 12 month period.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:54 pm to jrljr
So weird Twitter rumors
UConn supposedly has been showing interest in hiring Bruce
Looks like they went w Danny Hurley but interesting they wanted to hire Bruce as they are trying to fire Kevin Ollie with cause over NCAA infractions
UConn supposedly has been showing interest in hiring Bruce
Looks like they went w Danny Hurley but interesting they wanted to hire Bruce as they are trying to fire Kevin Ollie with cause over NCAA infractions
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 5:05 pm to GenesChin
I hear you but the best system has a structure that allows for playmaking. They were running Flex bases but with no desired outcome. If that stops working, Bruce needs to take over and call sets.
I think he did that some, but by that time we were jogging through screens and eventually getting to spots with no sharpness
I think he did that some, but by that time we were jogging through screens and eventually getting to spots with no sharpness
Posted on 3/19/18 at 5:08 pm to auburnnyc94
Heron should be the slasher. He’s big enough to finish at the rim, he’s a lefty which can throw off defenders, and he sure as shite can’t shoot. He drives me crazy with all his long 2 point attempts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 5:09 pm to jt33
Totally possible and likely. But I gotta bitch about something after we get beat by 31 in the tourney
Posted on 3/19/18 at 5:38 pm to Zeroforwinger
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They were running Flex bases but with no desired outcome
Flex offenses don't have a set desired outcome. That is why it is considered continuous pattern
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If that stops working, Bruce needs to take over and call sets.
Agreed, but only so much a coach can do that point since you're in a hole by the time you have to go to plan B
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ut by that time we were jogging through screens and eventually getting to spots with no sharpness
Ya this was bad. Been a problem all year to be honest
Guys who feel like a certain cut won't get the ball half arse the shite out of it
Case in Point Heron every cut across the paint to the block to post up
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