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re: Trail of Tears or Trail of Cheers? #22 AU at #11 OU
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:54 pm to The_SwAUggford
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:54 pm to The_SwAUggford
My goodness that was a horrible finish. 12 sacks? Penalties galore to finish. Pathetic.
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:54 pm to greygoose
Don’t think the OL was bad other than the penalties. Their actual play was about as good as you could hope for with Arnold camping out in the backfield.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:55 pm to greygoose
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On paper, it looks like the OL did bad, but the QB is more than culpable
Right. Id bet they grade out well.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:55 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Yea, at this point our special teams coach needs to be gone at a minimum. He is atrocious. I don’t blame kicking on him, those guys have their own coach, but our coverage, blocking and returning is just awful and always get penalties. They continually make poor decisions and have awful awareness.
I agree with this 100% …. and it’s the same exact problems continuing from 2024.
1. This absolutely should have been effectively addressed in the off-season.
2. The current “cobbled together “ solution is going to cost us additional games this season.
3. And the beat goes on …
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:55 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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He also won’t throw it to a guy that has a 1v1. Guys may have a defender on them but if you throw with timing, you can throw guys open or let them adjust to a ball that a defender can’t.
This. They keep talking about no interceptions but he is too damn risk averse to where it’s a huge damn problem.
Shows me he’s scared and lacks confidence.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:56 pm to greygoose
Something could click. He is still young but I'm with you and I dont see it.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:57 pm to jangalang
quote:swap them and i bet the results are similar
Freeze passed on Castleannos to get Arnold
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:57 pm to The_SwAUggford
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Right. Id bet they grade out well.
There is no way they grade well. 10 sacks and most of the penalties were on them. False starts and holding penalties.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:57 pm to jangalang
quote:Hindsight is always 20/20.
Freeze passed on Castleannos to get Arnold
Arnold was a 5* out of HS. Started as a sophomore with a team decimated by injury. Given what we knew about both QBs at the time, the choice was clear, but wrong. Brady was, what, a 5th round pick?
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:57 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Yep pretty bad the last 5 minutes.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:58 pm to The_SwAUggford
Hugh has to understand this and alter the play calls. You can just keep calling four verts all game. I never thought going from Gus to Hugh we would be just as bad at attacking the middle of the field.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:58 pm to The_SwAUggford
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Idk tho. Its been explosive at times. Thorne was piecing up Oklahoma just last year remember?
How did that work out for that game and the rest of the season?
I’d chalk that up to Okie wasn’t that good last year. QB was a good part of their problem.
And Hugh went and got him.
This post was edited on 9/20/25 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:58 pm to jangalang
Chaplin was all but 1 false start. And how many holds were there? I remember 1 for wright and 1 on lew.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:59 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Hugh has to understand this and alter the play calls. You can just keep calling four verts all game. I never thought going from Gus to Hugh we would be just as bad at attacking the middle of the field.
He’s not going to change.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:59 pm to The_SwAUggford
I am pretty sure every OL picked up a penalty today.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 7:00 pm to greygoose
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If I can identify a problem, don't you think they saw it a long time before the fan and have tried to fix it?
Yep, which is why I don't have much hope of Arnold being the guy long term. Having the talent mentally to be elite is something QBs tend to have or don't, though they can improve decision-making with good coaching.
We've seen zero improvement from any QB under Freeze however, which makes me doubt how good the coaching he is getting on that regard is.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 7:01 pm to wareaglepete
quote:Oh yeah you're one of those only see the big picture people and dont understand the value of talking details. I wasnt looking at who I was replying to. Idiot me.
How did that work out for that game and the rest of the season?
Posted on 9/20/25 at 7:02 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Hugh has to understand this and alter the play calls. You can just keep calling four verts all game.
This is what we went and got. We struggled with Malzahn who had a "system" that couldn't adjust as defenses and rules adjusted. He was more run oriented, but his passing game was more or less similar... shots in the flat or long developing deep routes. Freeze has a similar mindset and I just don't think it flies in top level football anymore. We seem to have very few routes in the middle of the field and too many of our plays take three to five seconds to develop. We don't have the line for that against a team like Oklahoma.
We need a real offensive coordinator.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 7:03 pm to The_SwAUggford
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Oh yeah you're one of those only see the big picture people and dont understand the value of talking details. I wasnt looking at who I was replying to. Idiot me.
Maybe some day we’ll get better and you’ll finally be right. fricking know it all but always wrong.
Always.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 7:04 pm to jangalang
I dont remember Murphy or Wade picking up a penalty. And a hold isnt going to trash lews grade. And I think Wright still grades out decent. He was part of cobbs big run.
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