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Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:49 pm to
Imagine if you are Arkansas right now
Posted by Beachbum87
Niceville, FL
Member since Oct 2022
4207 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:53 pm to
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~$53 million buyout of his contract,


Just reported they negotiated it down to $27 million.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 8:05 pm to
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You need to look at the qualities of a coach and decide whether they are likely to translate over to the SEC, not these stupid disqualifiers which do nothing but cause you to overlook strong candidates. A good coach will succeed anywhere.


100% agree.

I know it was a different time but Pat Dye was at East Carolina and Wyoming.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14271 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 8:14 pm to
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100% agree.

I know it was a different time but Pat Dye was at East Carolina and Wyoming.
Wasn't Harsin pretty successful at Boise?

Dye came from the Bear Bryant coaching tree and played at UGA. How you came up is more important than where you are at, when hired.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15355 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 8:27 pm to
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Whole sale coaching change probably means every decent player we have, hits the portal Offense and DEFENSE!


This is going to happen on offense if we keep Freeze anyways. No way any quality player will stay after this year unless NIL drops serious bags.
Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
575 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 8:28 pm to
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stupid disqualifiers


Otherwise known as standards.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4410 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 8:42 pm to
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Otherwise known as standards.



Those are not standards. Every disqualifier you can think of has been proven to be complete bullshite by someone in this conference or elsewhere of significance. For example, LSU just proved to you that hiring a huge-name, super-accomplished coach is no more of a guarantee than hiring Billy Napier.

You are foolish, and this is exactly why AD's fail so often when picking coaches. They convolute the process with parameters that don't matter (or barely matter at best) and then end up with Charles Kelly as the HC instead of some wiz-kid who will go on to become the next great coach at some other school for the next ~decade.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50394 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 8:47 pm to
I hate our AD.

Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50394 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 8:48 pm to
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Just reported they negotiated it down to $27 million.

Well shite. That's a win for LSU.
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
14492 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 8:51 pm to
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Just reported they negotiated it down to $27 million


Link?
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23728 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:15 pm to
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Just reported they negotiated it down to $27 million.

Why in the world would BK agree to that?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29672 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:28 pm to
As bad as I hate to say it........we may be stuck with Freeze for another year.
Unless there is some up-and-comer that we would take a shot on, this is a bad year to be looking for a HC.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4410 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:36 pm to
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As bad as I hate to say it........we may be stuck with Freeze for another year.
Unless there is some up-and-comer that we would take a shot on, this is a bad year to be looking for a HC.


This argument is stupid:

When all of the prime candidates get scooped up this cycle, who are you going to hire once you have to inevitably fire Freeze next year? Don't forget that every school that loses a coach this offseason is going to then hire a replacement from elsewhere as well.

You also have zero idea of what the market will look like next year. And you are seeing accelerated firings going on as the new normal, which means that you can easily run into a scenario where there are a couple surprise firings next year and now you are in the same scenario you are looking at now.
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:36 pm to
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Just reported they negotiated it down to $27 million


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Link?


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But I haven't seen anything about this being official
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29672 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:38 pm to
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When all of the prime candidates get scooped up this cycle, who are you going to hire once you have to inevitably fire Freeze next year?


some "up-and-comer"..............hence

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Unless there is some up-and-comer that we would take a shot on, this is a bad year to be looking for a HC.


ETA what established HC is going to pick us over UF, PSU, and LSU?
This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 9:39 pm
Posted by FahQGump
Auburn, Al
Member since Dec 2021
1490 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:39 pm to
I can't lie and say I have any clue of what the AD has going right now. All of this talk about being afraid to fire Hugh because LSU and Florida are hiring is beyond ridiculous. If they are as good of jobs as everyone is claiming then why the hell is the job open to begin with? Hiring HC isnt a science. You keep the ones that win and fire the losers until you do. Auburn needs to quit having freaking BUYOUTS so these coaches have motivation to do what they are paid to do, WIN instead of trying to get the buyout asap. If any of us knew for certain who will Win and who will flame out then these "Top" jobs wouldnt be open. Their ADs whiffed last time and can do it again. If our AD and leaders have this inferiority mindset as well that every decision they make, they have to tiptoe around other SEC schools then Im wasting my time on Saturdays watching. I watch to see Auburn win not roll over and get scraps from LSU and freaking Florida
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4410 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:41 pm to
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But I haven't seen anything about this being official



Buddy, in no way does that Tweet say anything about them agreeing to a reduced buyout or even considering it. Read the Tweet again.
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
14492 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:43 pm to
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Buddy, in no way does that Tweet say anything about them agreeing to a reduced buyout or even considering it. Read the Tweet again.


You and I are making the same point....
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4410 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:14 am to
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some "up-and-comer"..............hence



Ok, but what happens if your targeted up-and-comers make moves this cycle, and next year's up-and-comers are weak?

Here is the problem that you may run into by doing nothing:

- Suppose that Auburn wants Sumrall, and Sumrall wants Auburn.
- Auburn does nothing.
- Kiffin actually leaves Ole Miss for LSU or Florida.
- Ole Miss pivots to Sumrall, and the job is too good for him to pass up so he takes it.

When you inevitably fire Freeze next season, Sumrall isn't going to be likely to leave Ole Miss after one season even if you hypothetically did still want him.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50394 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:17 am to
Two days ago Somerall wasn't proven enough but today it appears he is about to be a commodity. Is the hire worth Freeze's buyout? Absolutely.

It's a breath of fresh air. Some of the Auburn voodoo isn't there because the fanbase isnt bought in.
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