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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:20 am to auyushu
Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:20 am to auyushu
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Franklin is 15-31 against the top 25 at PSU
James Franklin is by far the best hire Auburn could make right now. Don’t worry about his record against ranked teams. It’s not 1975 anymore and we need a new understanding of college football. With a 12 (and I assure you, soon to be 16) team playoff, 2 or 3 losses no longer means you’re out of the running for the National Championship. Just get in and let the chips fall where they may.
Franklin won 10+ games at PSU in 6 of 10 seasons (I’m not counting this season or 2020, when PSU only played 9 games). 10+ wins for a Big 10/SEC team will have you in the playoff conversation and often will get you in. So that’s 60% of the time Franklin would have his team in the conversation and (let’s say) 40-50% of the time he’d get his team in. Is that where WE are right now?
The thing that bemuses and annoys me is how some posters here speak like Franklin is beneath us. That’s utterly delusional. We probably can’t convince Franklin to take our job, given some of the others that will be open this off season. (And I don’t say that because I don’t think Auburn has as much to offer a HC as any school, but I do realize national perception views jobs like LSU and Florida as being better than ours.)
As for hiring a young up and coming coach - Yes! I’d love to hire the next Smart! But the odds are we’re more likely to hire the next Napier than the next Smart. And do you really trust the brain trust at Auburn to pick the right guy? Come on, man.
The thing about a young up and comer is - higher potential ceiling, but much, much lower potential floor. Franklin would bring stability and respectability back to a program that has been spinning out of control for years. Will he get us into the playoffs? I’m confident in saying yes. Will he win a NC? Maybe, maybe not. But hearing him speak on Gameday yesterday, he’s pissed that he got fired and he’s highly motivated to prove PSU made a mistake.
Franklin will be pursued by every major school with an opening HC this off season. We should go for it and do our best to win.
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:43 am to NewYrkTiger
Franklin’s PSU team would have lost all the games Freeze has lost at Auburn this year.
PSU under Franklin looses to Oklahoma, Texas A&M, UGA and Missouri.
If we hire Franklin we are right back here in 3 yeas doing this again.
PSU under Franklin looses to Oklahoma, Texas A&M, UGA and Missouri.
If we hire Franklin we are right back here in 3 yeas doing this again.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:55 am to bird35
It’s funny how people like to spit out numbers like 15-31 without actually thinking about what those numbers mean. It means he wins 1 out of every 3 games against ranked teams, which means (statistically) he’d have won at least 1 of those 4 games (and maybe, given the fact that offensive coaching couldn’t have been worse, he’d have won 2). Which means we’d at least still be in the playoff conversation right now today.
This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 10:59 am
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:04 am to Ccslimm
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I like Summerall
Me too but if Stoops at KY gets canned Sumrall is their first call.
He played LB there around 2002-2004
But most likely, when Auburn fired Gus we will be turned down by the top candidates and end up with a lazy hire like we did with Harsin
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:08 am to NewYrkTiger
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Franklin will be pursued by every major school with an opening HC this off season. We should go for it and do our best to win.
The issue is the number of years and the buyout requirements. LSU is screwed with Kelly now due to the huge buyout, the Aggies got screwed with Fisher and his buyout. I can't think of a single Franklin type situation where it has worked for the team that hired the coach that was pushed out next.
I'm fine with Franklin if we aren't locked into him for 10 years for a huge buyout. But paying huge money to be locked into an 8-4/9-3 type coach for a decade is bad news and basically back to having Gus in his prime.
You are trying to brush off his record versus top 25 teams, but that's a sign of poor in game coaching, and he will be facing 6-7 top 25 opponents yearly in the SEC.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:11 am to auyushu
This is all moot until they fire Hugh Freeze.
I cant believe he still has a job this morning.
I cant believe he still has a job this morning.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:20 am to auyushu
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You are trying to brush off his record versus top 25 teams, but that's a sign of poor in game coaching, and he will be facing 6-7 top 25 opponents yearly in the SEC.
Maybe. But he’s still the only coach available who has gotten his team in the playoffs and consistently won 10+ games in a P4 conference. If you want to roll the dice on an unproven commodity, fine. The upside is certainly there. But don’t be surprised if it doesn’t work out and we’re back here in 3 years.
This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 11:21 am
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:27 am to NewYrkTiger
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It means he wins 1 out of every 3 games against ranked teams, which means (statistically) he’d have won at least 1 of those 4 games (and maybe, given the fact that offensive coaching couldn’t have been worse, he’d have won 2). Which means we’d at least still be in the playoff conversation right now today.
Dude, you need to work on your math skills. We will play six ranked teams this year, so if he won a third of those games we are an 8-4 team at best, not anywhere close to the playoffs. And beyond that he was terrible against really good teams, with 4-21 against the top ten and an abysmal record against their rivals.
The reason Franklin was racking up 10 win seasons at PSU was because he was only facing 3 ranked teams a year, that won't be the case in the SEC. And he still had quite a few 7-6 type years, two in the past five seasons. Which is probably why PSU pulled the trigger, he couldn't beat his rivals and was on pace for his third five+ loss season in six seasons.
I mean sure he's better than the Harsin and Freeze garbage we've had, but he's not amazing enough to lock ourselves into for a huge contract buyout.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:28 am to IAmNERD
Franklin's big game PSU record—with as good a resources as Auburn would give or better—speaks for itself.
Nick Saban and Rece Davis were singing his praises on GameDay.
Tell me this: if Franklin ends up at Auburn, will Saban and Rece be happy or sad? When you have your answer, that should tell you if we should hire Franklin or not.
Nick Saban and Rece Davis were singing his praises on GameDay.
Tell me this: if Franklin ends up at Auburn, will Saban and Rece be happy or sad? When you have your answer, that should tell you if we should hire Franklin or not.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:29 am to auyushu
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and consistently won 10+ games in a P4 conference. If
He hasn't consistently won 10+ games though, he went 4-5 in 2020 and 7-6 in 2021. And he obviously wasn't going to win 10 games this season either.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:33 am to auyushu
The statement I was responding to was that, based on his track record, he would have lost all 4 games Freeze has lost this year. That’s false. Based on his track record, he’d have won at least 1, maybe 2.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:35 am to auyushu
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He hasn't consistently won 10+ games though
6 times since 2016 in a P4 conference isn’t consistent? We’re not talking about Saban. I’ll grant you that. But name me another HC who has won 10+ games 6 times in a P4 conference in the last decade?
This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 11:55 am
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:38 am to NewYrkTiger
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6 times since 2016 isn’t consistent? We’re not talking about Saban. I’ll grant you that. Name me another HC who has won 10+ games 6 times in the last decade?
Bryan Harsin did it 5 times in a smaller sample size LOL (in only 8 total seasons).
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:39 am to metafour
Fair. I should have added “in a P4 conference.”
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:53 am to NewYrkTiger
Either Kiffin, who I wold hate, but he would win or Marcus Freeman. Everyone else is a 2nd tier option to me.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:56 am to jt33
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Either Kiffin, who I wold hate, but he would win or Marcus Freeman. Everyone else is a 2nd tier option to me.
Neither is happening, therefore you are wasting your time even considering it.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:58 am to metafour
quote:I don't disagree and don't have my hopes up lol. I did see your post about Hartline in the other thread right after I wrote that and I'd agree with him too. Its just a matter of he wants a HC job or not and wants to leave that region.
Neither is happening, therefore you are wasting your time even considering it.
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:15 pm to NewYrkTiger
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But name me another HC who has won 10+ games 6 times in a P4 conference in the last decade?
Brian Kelly for one, Lincoln Riley has 5 (9-2 in 2020, so would have had 6 if his two cupcake games weren't canceled). And those are two coaches I wouldn't want anywhere near Auburn.
Ryan Day will have 6 after this season. Dan Lanning is on pace for 4 in 4 years. Kirby obviously. Dabo as well.
Jimbo Fisher fit that description as well, and I think he's the best comparison to Franklin of anyone honestly. Feasted on a weak conference, got pushed out after one down season, went to the SEC and was mediocre and then fell apart. Which is my concern with Franklin.
This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:26 pm to auyushu
So of the 100+ D-1 coaches, you’ve listed 7 (not all of whom have actually won 10+ games 6 times in the last 10 years, but I’ll let that slide). So you have to admit it’s a small number of coaches (whether you’d “want them anywhere near Auburn” or not being a separate issue).
Bottom line, Franklin is proven, whether you like him or not. You take issue with his inability to win big games. That’s fair. You’d rather hire an up and coming type coach. That’s also fair, although it carries some risk of its own.
In the end, we have two different opinions and that’s just that.
Anyway, let’s start with what we likely agree on - fire Freeze! And let’s take it from there.
Bottom line, Franklin is proven, whether you like him or not. You take issue with his inability to win big games. That’s fair. You’d rather hire an up and coming type coach. That’s also fair, although it carries some risk of its own.
In the end, we have two different opinions and that’s just that.
Anyway, let’s start with what we likely agree on - fire Freeze! And let’s take it from there.
This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 10/19/25 at 5:01 pm to CorchJay
I kind of like Glenn Schumann. Young guy, great recruiter, defensive minded, and coached at our two biggest rivals in their glory days. Let him run the defense and bring in an OC to run that side.
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