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Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:01 pm to
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is this a clear federal crime?


From my understanding, possibly but it is legal gymnastics

It seems that it all hinges on two key points:

1- Why FBI cares/jurisdiction: Person is an agent of Auburn, which receives federal funds and is a federally funded organization. Fed has stake in fed funded orgs finances

The statute is written to talk about diverting funds/property from the fed funded organization

2- Why it qualifies as a bribe: Person being bribed cause "economic harm" by risking NCAA judgments that could expose Auburn to financial distress + affects their control over finances




The legal gymnastics


1- FBI claims Person affected Auburns control of assets like scholarship allocation/ scholarship $

This would imply scholarships are assets transferred to players conditioned on their ability to play sports.... As in players are paid w valuable assets to play sports

... In a case about violation of amateurism



2- Economic harm by NCAA sanctions/tournament prohibition

Which means there was no actual damage/financial harm, just potential. Considering the NCAA being unpredictable on judgments and the financial ramifications unclear, this is a hard sell

Plus Auburn BBall doesn't have a history of making tournament so hard to argue that any NCAA punishment would negatively impact Auburn financially


This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52530 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 7:25 pm to
Mustaph is 50/50 on whether he’s returning to Auburn or going pro.
Better odds than when he announced his intent to hire agent.
LINK
Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
13470 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 7:35 pm to
If he brought Wiley back, that would be something. I really don't care about Heron tbh.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/13/18 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

he brought Wiley back, that would be something. I really don't care about Heron tbh.



I've always poured water on the Heron hype parades, but this is a bad take


Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24040 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 9:48 am to
Been looking at mock drafts after the lottery order has been set. Wiley appears to have dropped out of every full mock draft I've seen. Not sure if that means anything, but he's been in most if not all of them before.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
10122 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 10:26 am to
Jamal Johnson (Memphis) commits to transfer to Auburn.

6'4 combo guard has to sit a year and then has 3.

We recruited him out of HS.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 10:30 am to
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
8436 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 10:45 am to
The NBA combine starts today so if Wiley is going to work his way onto some draft boards now is the time.
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 10:46 am
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
9444 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Jamal Johnson (Memphis) commits to transfer to Auburn.

6'4 combo guard has to sit a year and then has 3.

We recruited him out of HS.



Isn't he Buck Johnson's son?
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
16695 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Isn't he Buck Johnson's son?


Yes.

6'4. Imagine him and Doughty on the floor at 1 and 2. Crazy length.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52530 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 1:28 pm to
Awesome sauce
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52530 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 4:48 pm to
I don’t listen to Finebaum normally so don’t judge me, but Greene was on and he said something that is interesting (it may just be me.) He said that he goes on recruiting trips with Bruce to talk to tbe recruits families and help recruit. I guess he’s only discussing the stability aspect of our program after the scandal but damn, he’s an asset.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 4:53 pm to
That's awesome. Thanks for that tidbit.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38803 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 5:15 pm to
Wait... non-coaches can recruit under NCAA rules?

And not just non-coaches, but administrators?
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37845 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

Wait... non-coaches can recruit under NCAA rules?

And not just non-coaches, but administrators?





Yes and yes.




Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22562 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Longest wingspans at the '18 #NBA  combine 1. Mo Bamba (7'10) 2. Udoka Azubuike (7'7) 3. Jaren Jackson (7'5.25) T-4. Isaac Haas / Austin Wiley (7'5) 6. Ray Spalding (7'4.75) 7. Wendell Carter (7'4.5) 8. Bruno Fernando (7'4.25) 9. Kevin Hervey (7'3.5) 10. Keita Bates-Diop (7'3.25)
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Mo Bamba (7'10)

wow
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37845 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:38 am to
quote:

wow


I watched him play a few times last year, it was incredible how he was able to alter a game. Teams basically gave up scoring inside
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52530 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 4:18 pm to
Bruce Pearl
Bruce Pearl
@coachbrucepearl
This is a very exciting day for one of our own! Dreams do come true and @__Austinwiley50 is fixin to show out at this Combine! Proud of the way he trained and hung in all year!


Couple of thoughts:
-Wiley is buff. He’s ready to handle Lebron. I’m kidding
- Bruce Pearl’s word usage of “fixin” is hilarious. Damn rednecks.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 4:23 pm to
Wiley’s physical attributes have never been his question mark. It’s going to come down to his shooting. If he can be a big that can knock down an open mid range shot he will have a strong career.
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