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re: StatTiger's A&M projections

Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:56 pm to
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:56 pm to
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I'm banned too. :( I don't even know what I did.


frick that place. I have zero desire to sign up for a forum where they moderate it stricter than a Kim Jong il propaganda thread on The Day of the Shining Star.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21521 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:03 am to
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Those stats are typically very accurate.
Stats are cut and dry facts. The context in which he uses them are slightly biased though. Normally he is pretty good.

This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 12:05 am
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46199 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:04 am to
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frick that place. I have zero desire to sign up for a forum where they moderate it stricter than a Kim Jong il propaganda thread on The Day of the Shining Star.

This really is the only quality Auburn board left. Kinda sad.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46199 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:05 am to
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Stats are cut and dry facts. The context in which he uses them are slightly biased though. Normally he is pretty good.

Stats are lies 99% of the time.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21521 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:07 am to
89.3% of the time I don't read your posts
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
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Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:08 am to
Posted by The Nino
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21521 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:10 am to
Would it make you feel better if I told you the other 10.7% I bookmark your posts?
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:12 am to
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Would it make you feel better if I told you the other 10.7% I bookmark your posts?

1% better.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:17 am to
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Stats are lies 99% of the time.



Stats are never lies, they're a mathematical certainty. Now contextually, they can be used deceptively when the human element adds ulterior motives.

If I say flying is dangerous because over 200 people die on average in plane crashes, I'm skewing the data for more impact. But when spread out, that same date can represent you have a 1 in 724,000 chance of dying in a plane crash. Neither are lies, they just accomplish a different means to represent the human element.

With that said, stats should always be questioned.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46199 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:20 am to
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Stats are never lies, they're a mathematical certainty. Now contextually, they can be used deceptively when the human element adds ulterior motives.

Yes I know. It was more of a joke. My stats teacher in High School made damn sure I knew what to think about stats.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:23 am to
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Yes I know. It was more of a joke. My stats teacher in High School made damn sure I knew what to think about stats.



We didn't have stats in high school. I took business stats last semester and it ended up being my hardest class. I'm not a fan.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46199 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:25 am to
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We didn't have stats in high school. I took business stats last semester and it ended up being my hardest class. I'm not a fan.

Took it senior year. Mine was an AP course so the teacher was awesome. He gave us candy almost everyday to give us some data to work with
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:46 am to
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Geneschin

Those stats are typically very accurate.


I am not saying that the raw numbers he refers to is accurate just some of the conclusions when he combines some stats. For your average guy (Columbus PD officer I heard) he is really good


He just doesn't have a background in regression statistics from what I have read from him. There are combinations of stats that don't really work and aren't the most accurate way to depict things

Such as combining his predicted score models
Posted by LA kid but AU fan
Jay Prosch Fan Club: Historian
Member since Apr 2007
4634 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:51 am to
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Error cause I'm banned :( they need to let the grudge go.


I would say VPN, but AUF ain't worth it.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 3:01 am to
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Such as combining his predicted score models
It's actually very sound in the score part. His projected Ole Miss Final was 27-22 Auburn, only 3 points off. For 1 set he takes the TAMU scoring average and multiplies it by 1 - the % below what the Auburn D is giving up teams since AU gives up less than teams' averages to get 1 TAMU value. Then he multiplies TAMU's average score given up on D by 1 + the % AU's O is scoring over the team averages given up by AU opponents since AU is scoring more than their opponents allow. That gives you 1 Auburn value and completes the first set. For the second set take AU scoring average and multiply it by 1 + the % above what the TAMU D is giving up teams since TAMU gives up more than teams' averages to get the next AU value. Then he multiplies AU's average score given up on D by 1 + the % TAMU's O is scoring over the team averages given up by TAMU opponents since TAMU is scoring more than their opponents allow to get the next TAMU value. add the same team values and divide by 2 to get the projected score for each team.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 3:05 am to
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I'm banned too. :( I don't even know what I did.
I seriously doubt you were banned. Your profile was just probably not converted correctly when the merger happened. That happened to many profiles.
Posted by aubiecat
Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
4218 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 4:57 pm to
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Not since 1996...UGA 4 OT game


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I was there.

So was I. I had a date that night and the game kept going and going and going.
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