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re: Someone convince me that we’re not f****d in Football

Posted on 1/31/22 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 6:47 pm to
You’re doing work but just know he has about 50% of the fan base behind him, another 20 that is willing to see what he will do but dammit you better hurry the F up Bryan, 10-15 that just flipped upset, and expressing their thoughts of discouragement. 10 that were down on him and believe he would struggle and not a right fit, and the rest just hate him completely.

Those aren’t exact numbers but I suspect can change either way by 5% and it would be pretty damn accurate. Keep up the valiant effort.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 8:03 am to
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You are being soft and melting and it’s just emburrassin. Just chill out and let the man succeed or fail.


Someone doesn't agree with me they must be melting. Ok. You are a blind optimist and a joke. Ok, he's out there recruiting his butt off. Probably has been since he has been there, but is he any good at it? Results are iffy right now. Moved us up in the rankings a bit, but we have areas of immediate need that they just can't get filled.

Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11090 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 1:28 pm to
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Gus (who is fully responsible for the shape our program is in currently and if you deny that it’s says all I need to know about you and your opinion)


The AU leadership deserves as much blame. They gave Malzahn $7M guaranteed a year, and it has just gotten worse ever since that moronic move. Name another school that has head coaching costs of $10-12M+/year and no Tier-1 P5 coach to show for it.

Look, I hope Harsin is able to stabilize the ship but there is a whole conflagration of things that have scorched AU and it doesn’t appear that things are going to work out for a while. Unfortunately I’m not sure we have much of a choice other than to let him run the ball out for a few years and see what happens. So we’ll run our 1– 8–2 Defense, and our bubble screen offense and see how far it takes us.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36460 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 1:39 pm to
I was the the earliest and most consistent critic to Gus on this board so I will qualify my post to be as clear as possible. I do believe Gus probably could’ve had one of those decent odd-numbered years this year that Harsin didn’t even come close to. I do not think he is better than Harsin and I hope Harsin proves me right. And in the unfortunate scenario that Harsin does not prove me right that still doesn’t mean firing Gus was the wrong move. It just means his replacement was the wrong move. Gus was already stale. Maybe we should’ve waited an extra year to fire him that’s for you to decide.


However, completely blaming the state of the program on Gus is ludicrous.
- Gus didn’t lose the last 5 games for Auburn.
- He didn’t force Harsin to make those hires, nor dismissals.
- He didn’t tell Harsin to start running off players because they didn’t act a certain way.
- He didn’t prevent Harsin from recruiting well this year

I hate to tell you this Midnight, but Harsin gets his hefty share of blame, too. This is his program.




Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 1:44 pm to
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but Harsin gets his hefty share of blame, too. This is his program.


It's his job now and it's his job to fix it. He should've known what he was getting into.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16580 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 2:53 pm to
Maybe Harsin shouldn't waste time taking the stairs and just suffer through taking the elevator. Life moves fast in the SEC

Honestly that seems his biggest issues unplanned/unseen issues that just pop up he doesn't appear to handle well at all. He might have the most complex schedule and self control as any man on the planet but doesn't seem like he's prepared for anything outside of what he has planned for. Toto we aren't in Kansas (Boise) anymore.

At this pace will we have a QB coach by spring practice?
Posted by AUWDE
Member since Oct 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 3:25 pm to
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Name another school that has head coaching costs of $10-12M+/year and no Tier-1 P5 coach to show for it.


With Arkansas’s new contract, Sam Pittman is now the 4th highest paid coach in the SEC, slightly higher than Kirby Smart. He’s definitely improved the program but I’m not sure Pittman has earned tier 1 status yet.

Kendall Briles got a raise that is thought to be around $1.5M and Barry Odom was making $1.75M so Arkansas is definitely over the $10M mark in FB coach salaries.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 3:55 pm to
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However, completely blaming the state of the program on Gus is ludicrous.
- Gus didn’t lose the last 5 games for Auburn.
- He didn’t force Harsin to make those hires, nor dismissals.
- He didn’t tell Harsin to start running off players because they didn’t act a certain way.
- He didn’t prevent Harsin from recruiting well this year

I hate to tell you this Midnight, but Harsin gets his hefty share of blame, too. This is his program.



Couldn't agree more
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 4:06 pm to
We’re fricked. I don’t think harsin can handle all this.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11090 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 4:24 pm to
I’m talking about just for the head-coaching position. Irrespective of coordinators and staff.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36460 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 8:12 pm to
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We are not fricked. If NIL does it’s job every conference will be getting players ( not just our rivals) and then Auburn might be able to pop off some rivalry wins.

Personally I think the NIL is fricked.

Recession narrative is looming and already being hinted after inflation from supply chain constraints narrative fades and there is a lot of “stupid money” in the world as non transitory wage inflation and money printing continues on

Zeke Pike is teaching crypto and NFTs courses and has like 150,000 followers
Logan Paul spent 3.5 million on fake Pokémon cards.
Celebrities outbidding each other on NFTS

Recession isn’t needed but real priorities are out of wack.


Nothing is ever good in the world when gas is this high but maybe all of this throws some perspective into these boosters that want to waste money on some entitled kid that thinks he can name a price. The NIL bubble pops next.


BTW, whoever sold Logan Paul those fake Pokémon cards manned up and paid Logan Paul back out of his own pocket. That’s good people right there.
Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
4117 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 8:49 pm to
We’re fricked. Harsin is a lame duck coach. He won’t last more than two years - until then we can expect to have a shittt team
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
4939 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 8:55 pm to
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However, completely blaming the state of the program on Gus is ludicrous.


I will agree Gus shares some blame for soft players and bad roster management but Harsin shares some blame too. That is just for 2021. From here on out its on Harsin, with 2 recruiting cycles and transfers you should be able to show what your team is made of by year 2. Might not all be wins but we dont need a 42-13/ 49-0 blowouts
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16580 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 9:11 pm to
I think the conversation should be about wins and losses.

6 or under almost certainly gone unless 1 of those 6 wins are bama or uga.

7 is shaky ground. if recruiting isn't top 10 might be gone.

8 or above safe.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36460 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 9:33 pm to
NIL is still giving spanky a temper tantrum

Mike Rodak
@mikerodak
Saban: We were 2nd in recruiting last year. A&M was first. A&M bought every player on their team. Made a deal for name, image and likeness. We didn’t buy one player. But I don’t know if we’re going to be able to sustain that in the future because more and more people are doing it


Mike Rodak
@mikerodak
Nick Saban says 25 players on Alabama last season earned NIL revenue totaling $3 million and did it “the right way.” Saban speaking at a 50-day countdown event for the World Games in Birmingham.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10977 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 9:06 am to
This is like if Al Capone called out the New York families for organized crime.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 9:07 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36460 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:40 am to
Jimbo roasting Saban

LINK
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30098 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:09 am to
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NIL is still giving spanky a temper tantrum


Not really, he’s just motivating the Bama boosters to not get complacent and pay more for nil
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