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re: Since we are speculating

Posted on 12/29/20 at 5:43 pm to
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 5:43 pm to
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I'm sorry I made you hold my pocket


Stop calling your vagina a pocket.

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It's not that hard.


You are mistaken.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20451 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 5:47 pm to
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Truesdell - UDFA


A no hype recruit who became a full time starter.

Good luck to him.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18825 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:19 am to
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McCreary for me has the best chance for big move. He's criminally underrated.



True here.

Im not certain Smoke would be drafted, he got smoked on quite a few plays this year, exposing his lack of speed.

And Sherwood you are correct as well, he is a good one and would benefit from another year.
Posted by AUBLAW
Member since Apr 2019
11 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 6:58 am to
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Schwartz - 2nd


If Schwartz runs a 4.2 or something then I maybe see some playoff team like the Chiefs or Saints take him late in the second. I think that’d be a reach though. AS is basically John Ross with worse college production.

Realistically, Schwartz should be a 4th or 5th round pick. He’s not particularly elusive, he hasn’t shown the ability to make a lot of tough catches in traffic, and he’s not really explosive. If you think about the best “speedy” players in the NFL, they always have some other trait to complement their speed. AS doesn’t have that rn.

I do think he could become a 2nd round receiver if he spent another year here and worked on his route-running. That’s where he could stand to improve the most. If you look at Calvin Ridley with the Falcons, he kind of shares some similar deficiencies as AS.

Ridley is a bit more elusive, but he’s not really incredible after the catch, and while he made some contested catches, that’s not really a strength for him either. He is one of the best route-runners in the league though, and uses his speed and footwork to create a ton of separation. If AS can become even 75% the route-runner that Ridley is, then he’d for sure be a 2nd round pick.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18447 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 6:59 am to
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Newkirk -UDFA Truesdell - UDFA Big Kat - no cl


Any chance they return for one more year?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108191 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 7:59 am to


Truth
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4437 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:46 am to
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Would probably serve Ant best if he skipped 40 at the combine and let the Auburn home cooking do its job. After all he really will have to blow people away because expectations will already be sky high .


This is really stupid. If your calling card is your speed, then you need to run - period. The only exception is if said player has already cemented their status with their actual game-film, which Schwartz has not.

The forty yard dash at the Combine is where Schwartz will make all of his money.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4437 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:55 am to
Also; Schwartz has bought into his own hype a bit too much which is why he's leaving. Ultimately, if he runs in the 4.2 range as you'd expect an Olympic-caliber sprinter to run, he will be drafted in the ~3rd/4th round (maybe higher) so leaving early wouldn't be a "mistake". He has good hands and has shown promise route-running. Anyone trying to draw conclusions on what he can or can't do is silly as it is already known that our WR utilization has been comically bad.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50585 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:56 am to
I’ve seen too many not live up to expected 40 time and fall. Not running doesn’t hurt near as bad.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4437 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:59 am to
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I’ve seen too many not live up to expected 40 time and fall. Not running doesn’t hurt near as bad.


You've seen Olympic-caliber sprinters run the 40 and disappoint? Running fast is literally the one thing he should have absolute confidence in. How bad would it look to teams if he's not even confident enough to showcase his ONE carrying trait LMAO?

Pro Day does NOT "replace" the Combine.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50585 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:00 am to
Player: Jabari Greer, Tennessee defensive back
Year: 2004

Coming out of college, Greer was a track athlete, so there was a built-in expectation that speed was a part of his game. But after running a 4.37 at his Pro Day, he put up a 4.5 at the Combine.

Greer ended up going undrafted, and from that moment on, he refuses to take part in another 40. When asked how many times he did it during his five years with the Buffalo Bills, he said, “None.” Greer didn’t do one before signing a four-year, $22 million deal with the New Orleans Saints, either.

Greer said he would consider it an insult if he was asked to run a 40. “That's disrespectful in the league," he said. "Players would be like, 'I ran that at the combine. I'm a pro now. Football is football.’"
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50585 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:03 am to
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Pro Day does NOT "replace" the Combine.

Don’t care. He can keep the mystique of being the Olympian track star without proving it or putting that reputation on the line until after he gets drafted. Probably in the same third or fourth round as you said.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4437 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:15 am to
Jabari Greer was a hurdler, not a sprinting specialist. I see recording that he ran a 10.74 100-meter dash in 2002 while at Tennessee. Nothing about Jabari Greer's track history indicates that he was "supposed" to run an insanely fast time, so that comparison doesn't even make sense. Anthony Schwartz is among the fastest sprinters in his age group and his personal best sprint times blow Jabari Greer's out of the water.

Its pretty simple: he knows how fast he can run a 40. If he can run in the 4.2 range; that puts him in the "unicorn" category and thus he would be stupid NOT to run. Even if he disappoints and runs in the 4.3 range, that won't change anything.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50585 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:33 am to
Either way, he can sprint if he wants to or he can hedge. Still the same 3rd or 4th round as we are both agreeing on. Anything else?
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4437 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:56 am to
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Either way, he can sprint if he wants to or he can hedge. Still the same 3rd or 4th round as we are both agreeing on. Anything else?



He doesn't have the collegiate performance to hedge on not running. It is 100% a bad look, and utterly stupid. There is absolutely nothing for him to gain by not running.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50585 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:24 pm to
I’m taking about his reputation. If he runs a 4.33 he’s no longer top sprinter in his age group. I know that sounds stupid given he is amongst general pop, but he loses the talking point. He would just be another Jeff Demps or Jacoby Ford. Don’t lose the mystique and don’t let anybody know how fast he officially is.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:29 pm to
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I’m taking about his reputation.

I get your point, but if your one skill is speed then scouts are going to want to see proof of it. If he was burning teams every game you could be right, but he hasn’t shown enough to sit it out.

I fully expect him to run though. He seems like the kind of guy who is going to try and break the record. Not sure he has the burst and acceleration for it though. That’s the difference in 40 yard speed and track speed.
Posted by Ccslimm
DC
Member since Nov 2016
738 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:50 pm to
Someone haven’t been watching the nfl recently and it shows.

If Schwartz can manage to run the fastest 40 at the combine; he will be be drafted in the top 3 rounds.

It’s happened that way to multiple unknowns who managed that feat.

Everyone else should come back but I don’t know their financial situations so.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 1:27 pm to
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but I don’t know their financial situations so.


They are all taken care of
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
12256 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 2:24 pm to
I’d damn near bet you my house Schwartz will not be drafted in the 2nd round but opinions are like assholes or something like that
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