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Posted on 2/4/22 at 2:15 pm to metafour
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Obviously, players who succeeded under him are going to be complementary.
True and the opposite is also true. Players that didn't quiet have the season they wanted are going to be less complimentary. It's human nature.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 2:18 pm to metafour
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You're making my point for me
No I'm not you just said anyone who had a good year would defend him and anyone who had a bad year would attack him.
And that's not the case.
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These guys: Wooten, Shenker, Moultry are "Harsin's guys"
No they aren't. Chandler Wooten has proven in the past that he will speak to what is on his heart regardless of what is going on around him. See summer of 2020 with the BLM stuff and then being the only contributor to sit out for the covid year.
So he has shown that he isn't gonna just speak on something because others are. He is gonna say what he thinks. TD could have easily been left behind when he had his NCAA issues in the middle of the season. But guess what? He did what was asked of him by the staff, took his suspension, and came back to ball out. Those two guys are easily guys that could have just been left to go it alone yet they weren't.
Then you have guys like Hall and Tank who are the literal best players on the team to come back for another year when they both could have been starting at 90 percent of schools in the country. And they both came back just to be abused by the head coach? Come on man.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 2:19 pm to MTurbo
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Players that didn't quiet have the season they wanted are going to be less complimentary. It's human nature.
To be clear Smoke and Rabbit were defensive leaders that should’ve had no agenda against Harsin as they were gone. Those players are apparently drawing upon personal experiences.
Kobe and then Corn is a little more peculiar.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 2:25 pm to jangalang
Yeah I am of the mindset you can’t dismiss the account of any player supportive or not. In business life I have seen people having a different experience with someone than I and others did.
That’s why it’s important for a coach to have maybe a no gray area while on the field but build up the young men off the field with some flexibility.
That’s why it’s important for a coach to have maybe a no gray area while on the field but build up the young men off the field with some flexibility.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 2:34 pm to Poker Dough
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If Harsin is given all the time he needs, what would the results look like to you?
It would show that we gave him time to implement his philosophy and his vision for the program. IF it didn't work , maybe we could get a HC worth his weight. IF we show we will pull this bullshite, after year one, we are going to be looking for our next HC from the Jr. High ranks.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 2:37 pm to MrAUTigers
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IF we show we will pull this bullshite, after year one
Fire him for cause?
If they succeed and he's fired for cause, his firing will be justified. Auburn is a lot of things, but these big money guys aren't idiots; this isn't happening without a case to be made. If they have a case to make, then other coaches aren't going to sit there and defend Harsin.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 2:44 pm to metafour
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Fire him for cause?
If they succeed and he's fired for cause, his firing will be justified.
bullshite. This was a planned attack. You honestly think this just popped up one day after NSD........where we didn't sign a single player?
Posted on 2/4/22 at 2:52 pm to metafour
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His "style" works for some players, but a smart leader knows how to adapt.
Probably the most important thing that's been said in this thread.
No one is going to have a problem with a coach being a hardass, but there's a balance. Clearly, some of the players don't have a problem with a guy that doesn't seem to be able to turn the hardass part off. But, as a coach, you have to be able to see that and understand that it's something that may need to be changed.
If the guy can't go out and convince players to play for him, or transfer in, because he can't adapt, he's not going to be successful.
It sounds like he has the coaching acumen, vision, discipline and work ethic based on these players statements, but just like in any other leadership position, you have to have emotional intelligence as well to be successful, and that appears to be lacking.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 2/4/22 at 3:11 pm to metafour
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Fire him for cause?
I honestly feel like I'm missing something here. What would the cause be?
Posted on 2/4/22 at 3:24 pm to CharlieTiger
Did we want Harsin to build the program or just get some flashy recruits and have the normal inconsistencies? The guy is doing exactly what everyone wanting him to do but…..they are losing their shite over being ranked 18 in recruiting.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 3:34 pm to AUX3
That’s the problem with these SOFT arse fans in this chat. They think we should be a top 5 team with the lack of players we have and the WEAK mindset Gus left us with.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 3:48 pm to TheMidnightTiger
Calzada just retweeted Shenker's post .
Posted on 2/4/22 at 4:23 pm to MrAUTigers
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bullshite. This was a planned attack.
It seems obvious. But now we are left either starting over or with a gravely wounded coach.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 4:56 pm to higgs_boson
It absolutely was a coordinated attack. LINK
Posted on 2/4/22 at 6:34 pm to metafour
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This was posted elsewhere, but it mirrors what I had been hearing even before this rumor blew up last night:
When are you stupid fricks going to learn no one has a goddamn clue. We’ve been through years of posts like the one you copied, and 99% of the time they’re so full of shite it’s not even funny.
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