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Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
Member since Jun 2012
356 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:07 pm to
Well, you did type "Not one University."

I am still baffled why some are so angry at 2-0. Gus's teams have ALWAYS started slow, even in the good years. But so do a lot of other coaches. it is frustrating but it's a hellava lot better than taking the L.

Let's see how the season develops before we get the pitchforks and run him into the windmill.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
14518 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

I was responding to the above post that no one would hire him. Keep moving the goalposts.
my point still stands

Who in the SEC would hire Kirby?
Who in the SEC would hire Saban?
Who in the SEC would hire Jimbo?
Stoops?
Mullin?
O?
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
14518 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:09 pm to
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Well, you did type "Not one University."
I didnt type that. I responded to the weak retort
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
14518 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

Gus's teams have ALWAYS started slow
And this is a good thing???? Maybe i should add this to the list
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
14518 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:12 pm to
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Revisionist history at it’s finest!!
Maybe you should go back and revisit the box score so you can refresh you memory.
Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
Member since Jun 2012
356 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:13 pm to
Yep, sorry, I didn't see that.

I know many folks want to fire him and pay him $30M to never coach another game at Auburn. But who do you hire then?

Never said being a slow starter is a good thing. I wrote being 2-0 is a good thing.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 3:19 pm
Posted by gsm1060
Tree stand
Member since Dec 2009
683 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:14 pm to
I was at most of those games. Ugly wins. I’ve seen every coach in the last 40 years have those.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:15 pm to
I think there has always been a kind of wtf game a year that if Gus won, the tune would be pretty different

2014 - TAMU
2015 was a shite-show, but beating a mediocre UGA team would go a long way to giving the season a small portion of success
2016 - UGA
2017 - LSU
2018 - UT

change the outcome of those five games and it would go a long way to the perception about Gus. win percentage would put him up to 10th overall nationally (23rd now) over his AU career and a top 20 finish in each outside '15

and until we stop blowing some of these games, fans will rightfully have a valid criticism of him
Posted by gsm1060
Tree stand
Member since Dec 2009
683 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:19 pm to
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I think there has always been a kind of wtf game a year that if Gus won, the tune would be pretty different 2014 - TAMU 2015 was a shite-show, but beating a mediocre UGA team would go a long way to giving the season a small portion of success 2016 - UGA 2017 - LSU 2018 - UT change the outcome of those five games and it would go a long way to the perception about Gus. win percentage would put him up to 10th overall nationally (23rd now) over his AU career and a top 20 finish in each outside '15 and until we stop blowing some of these games, fans will rightfully have a valid criticism of him

I agree with every word of this
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
14518 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:21 pm to
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I think there has always been a kind of wtf game a year that if Gus won, the tune would be pretty different
And add in the WTF games with the non power 5 struggles and its just pure frustration from the fanbase.

Were in year what? Seven? And the program still has not been built to the standards we as fans pay for. This is it. I cant take more of Gus if he cant come through for us.

Just look at kick coverage. Its been an issue with him his entire career. FSU, LSU, UGA, Oregon, etc. Worst i have ever seen. I liken it to Alabama kicking FGs. No effort has gone into correcting it
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
4482 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:21 pm to
I personally feel like the past few years we have won despite him not because of him. I’ll give him credit for hiring a good defensive staff, but the man is a terrible playcaller. He has his offense and he needs very specific pieces to run it, and if he doesn’t have those pieces it won’t work.

Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
Member since Jun 2012
356 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:25 pm to
I have to agree. I cringed reading that list.

I am not a big Gus supporter, I do support him but those loses, DAMN. But I also think we will be with him for a few years due to the buyout. I just want to point out we could be a lot worse off and no guarantee the next coach will be better and could be much worse. Coaching changes are fun until the first L.
Posted by AU1960
ALABAMA
Member since Oct 2008
3632 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:26 pm to
The man has been Auburn's HC for many seasons now.
He has had an abundance of talent to teach/coach at this level of football for season after season.
You can't seriously believe poor Auburn always has a tough schedule and cut him some slack.
This is the fricking SEC.

If you cannot recruit and develop a consistent high caliber team in 7 plus years you gotta go.
No excuses.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37533 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:26 pm to
Why I would say Gus has broken Auburn fans more than most any other coach is because he has dangled true greatness in front of us, but then just completely shits the bed. Whether it has been seasons or even individual games (LSU game). He just seems to get in his own way and make decision that make you shake your head.

It makes no sense. The other coaches, you pretty much knew what you were getting week in and week out. Tubs would have an upset here or there, but the teams generally looked pretty similar each week. As he started to decline, so did the teams. With Gus, we get teased with the talent and ability to beat anyone in the country, then we have Jack St games or mercer games. His teams look completely lost and ill-prepared one week, only to beat Arkansas by 50+ the next.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 3:28 pm
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9574 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

If you cannot recruit and develop a consistent high caliber team in 7 plus years you gotta go.


Thankfully the powers that be know that's a dangerous game. We could end up in a 15 year rut like Tennessee very quickly thinking like that.
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:41 pm to
Since 2013, Gus Malzahn has gone 9-18 vs. LSU, UGA, Bama, and in the postseason.

In that span his offenses have ranked 5th in the SEC based on ppg & ypg combined. During the same span LSU's offenses have ranked 7th while being coached by Les Miles and Ed O.
Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
Member since Jun 2012
356 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:42 pm to
Not make a statement one way or the other but consider this:

Shug Jordan winning % was .675
Barfield was .536
Pat Dye was .711
(unmentionable coach) was .731
Tommy Tuberville was .680
Gen Chizik was .635
Gus is currently .692

If Pat Dye had lost one more game, he would be .690
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 3:44 pm
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
14518 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Since 2013, Gus Malzahn has gone 9-18 vs. LSU, UGA, Bama, and in the postseason.

In that span his offenses have ranked 5th in the SEC based on ppg & ypg combined. During the same span LSU's offenses have ranked 7th while being coached by Les Miles and Ed O.
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
13943 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:46 pm to
Pat Dye won multiple championships and beat our rivals...
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
19206 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:47 pm to
Pat Dye didn’t have 12 game seasons, or those percentages would be higher. He also came into a much worse situation than Malzahn did.
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