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re: Predict the 2018 RB Depth Chart
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:56 pm to threedog79
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:56 pm to threedog79
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Recruiting pitch to possible RBs: If you are the number one guy, you will carry the rock 43 times a game. When you are beaten to crap we will throw a wide receiver screen and you will get back in. When you are draft eligible, you will have PTSD and start riding 4 wheelers down busy city streets. Welcome to Auburn. War Eagle
CAP seems to be doing well for running it 43 times a game in college. fricktard
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 1:05 pm to Fear The Thumb
I think the too many carries complaint is dumb. Lets not forget how bama rode henry for 400 carries and 49 against auburn. I don't think KJ touched 30 carries in a game all season. He was clearly the go to back and the other backs didn't get carries for a reason(ball security, pass blocking etc)
Gus has had 1,000 yd backs every year since idk when too, I think we'll be fine.
Gus has had 1,000 yd backs every year since idk when too, I think we'll be fine.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 1/12/18 at 1:39 pm to TheGusBus34
Normally, Bama rarely has a back with many more than 200 carries in a season. Richardson, Ingram, and Henry all had one season with well over 200 carries.
In Gus's 5 seasons as a head coach at auburn, his leading RB averaged 270 carries per season.
At Alabama with Saban as head coach, their leading RB has averaged 219 carries per season.
Now, how many of those season's at Alabama have they played more games than we have? Gus likes to ride his starting RB hard. That isn't up for debate. Some have been able to handle it fine. Others haven't. It still wouldn't do us harm rotating a RB better.
In Gus's 5 seasons as a head coach at auburn, his leading RB averaged 270 carries per season.
At Alabama with Saban as head coach, their leading RB has averaged 219 carries per season.
Now, how many of those season's at Alabama have they played more games than we have? Gus likes to ride his starting RB hard. That isn't up for debate. Some have been able to handle it fine. Others haven't. It still wouldn't do us harm rotating a RB better.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 1/12/18 at 1:45 pm to TheGusBus34
I agree that running your best RB a lot, is much better than seeing a coach take out your best RB just when the offense is moving into score...and then get bogged down, bc he used another back that got nothing when handed the ball.
For those who claim Gus ran KJ into the ground, KJ ONLY got injured IN the Alabama game diving for the pylon. It had nothing to do with the # of carries.
He would have had less carries if Pettway had not gotten injured AND suspended. And no other back besides those 2, could run, block and catch the ball, with situational RB bt committee with KM, Barrett, and MM.
For those who claim Gus ran KJ into the ground, KJ ONLY got injured IN the Alabama game diving for the pylon. It had nothing to do with the # of carries.
He would have had less carries if Pettway had not gotten injured AND suspended. And no other back besides those 2, could run, block and catch the ball, with situational RB bt committee with KM, Barrett, and MM.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 1:51 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Henry literally broke the season's rushing attempts number 2 years ago. All im saying is if the back is hot feed him. Now I did gripe a lil when KJ was in late in games but after LSU game we couldn't take many chances with him out.
Who outside tre mason has had over 270 carries in the regular season under gus?
Who outside tre mason has had over 270 carries in the regular season under gus?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 1:52 pm to joeyb147
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If you are the number one guy, you will carry the rock 43 times a game.
i love how we have to add 20 carries to try and make a point
It was a little tongue and cheek big guy. It's okay.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 1:53 pm to AuSteeler
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He would have had less carries if Pettway had not gotten injured AND suspended. And no other back besides those 2, could run, block and catch the ball, with situational RB bt committee with KM, Barrett, and MM.
So, instead of getting those RB's reps in blowouts so that they can get game practice at improving in those areas, we just continue to run the starter when the game is well in hand? Why not get one of those backups some reps with the 1's?
See my post above. Malzahn has his workhorse and runs them hard. Last year was the only year he technically didn't looking at the numbers, but he really did because one was always injured so the other got all the carries.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 1:55 pm to TheGusBus34
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Henry literally broke the season's rushing attempts number 2 years ago. All im saying is if the back is hot feed him. Now I did gripe a lil when KJ was in late in games but after LSU game we couldn't take many chances with him out.
Yea, feed the hot guy. The problem is we keep using the starting RB even in blowouts. Henry was a huge outlier for Bama. Their number would be much different without him.
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Who outside tre mason has had over 270 carries in the regular season under gus?
Kerryon 285 this season. CAP 303 in 2014. Mason 317 in 13.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 1/12/18 at 1:56 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
KJ only carried the ball 23 times a game if you split that into quarters that's less than 6 carries per quarter. He really wasn't run into the ground at all, im so tired of that narrative.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 1:59 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
and Henry had 395 carries which is really the definition of "running a back into the ground"
Posted on 1/12/18 at 2:05 pm to TheGusBus34
Kerryon has already shown to be very injury prone. 23.75 carries a game is also one of Malzahn's lower totals. 
I'd disagree. He looked worn out by the end of the season.
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He really wasn't run into the ground at all, im so tired of that narrative.
I'd disagree. He looked worn out by the end of the season.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 2:08 pm to TheGusBus34
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and Henry had 395 carries which is really the definition of "running a back into the ground"
Am I arguing that it is not? Here is the difference, even with Henry's 395, Bama's leading RB only averages 219 carries a season. Our starting RB is averaging 50 carries more a season (generally in less games).
ETA: You even admitted to the fact you were upset Kerryon was in late in games. So, you're upset about the exact same thing the rest of us are, but at the same time are "tired of the narrative" that you were still upset about?
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 1/12/18 at 2:08 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
worn out or injured from the bama game?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 2:10 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
we also ran the ball considerably more than bama did. Up until this past year auburn has been rushing the ball 70% of the time so that should explain our carries. Bama has had a more balanced offense than aubie in the last few years.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 2:11 pm to TheGusBus34
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worn out or injured from the bama game?
Both
Posted on 1/12/18 at 2:13 pm to TheGusBus34
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we also ran the ball considerably more than bama did. Up until this past year auburn has been rushing the ball 70% of the time so that should explain our carries. Bama has had a more balanced offense than aubie in the last few years.
Great. So if you are running the ball more, you should try to keep your RB's fresh, should you not? Do you want me to pull the numbers for the backup RB?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 2:16 pm to TheGusBus34
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and Henry had 395 carries which is really the definition of "running a back into the ground"
Also, to this point. Henry only average 2.5 carries more per game than Kerryon this year.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 2:23 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
at what point during the regular season was KJ ever not fresh? injured the first 3 games and last 2 games of the year.
Kam martin rushed for 136 in the game KJ missed and in the Arky game pettway went off...
Kam martin rushed for 136 in the game KJ missed and in the Arky game pettway went off...
Posted on 1/12/18 at 2:28 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
only 2 backs have rushed for over 300 carries in gus's whole career at auburn...
Posted on 1/12/18 at 2:28 pm to TheGusBus34
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at what point during the regular season was KJ ever not fresh? injured the first 3 games and last 2 games of the year.
So, we ran a hobbled RB 285 times this season? Why are you tired of the narrative exactly?
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