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re: Portal Extravaganza - our ends are tight edition

Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by Beatleaholic
Alabama
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:18 pm to
We have someone who has a year under his belt with AG’s system. 4 years of eligibility left too
Posted by AUFiend
Member since Nov 2022
235 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:19 pm to
Cam & Deuce have the same agent, and from everything i've gathered, the guy is a complete snake.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4521 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:21 pm to
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We didn't have a real QB competition last season and it killed us. Perhaps...... if we were willing to allow our 2million dollar (Jackson) QB to compete we'd have a better outcome on the field? Daniels would have been the QB faster. It would be awful to let a million dollar QB sit on the bench..... but in my opinion worse to NOT play the best guy. From a financial standpoint how many millions will Auburn lose if the stadium is nearly empty? How much of a hit has Auburn the brand and city taken the last five years by people not celebrating and enjoying victories? Oh and for the record I know Deuce wasn't going to beat Brown. I'm just saying that THIS same philosophy hasn't worked for us recently.



You don't get it. The actual answer is that they should have evaluated better and not signed Arnold at all, if there was any belief that you needed a "QB competition" when you brought him in.

The new NIL/Portal system will make evaluation and decision making imperative. You can't just recruit or sign players "just because" anymore. Because there are varying financial implications on your player choices vs. alternatives, you can't treat every player on your roster as "equal". So there is no more "we have 4 scholarship QB's, and the best one will play". No, you may have 4 QB's, but if one of them is paid $3M and the others are paid $100K each, then your payment structure itself is already dictating who needs to be the starter. If it turns out that one of your $100K QB's is actually better than the $3M QB, then you fricked up royally.

The amount of money that it will take to sign Byrum Brown means that you MUST be willing to make him the starter. Its the same thing as an NFL team drafting a QB ~Top 5-10 overall. When an NFL team makes that decision, they are LOCKED IN to making that QB their starter for at least a few seasons, and it must happen early in the contract. Why? Because there is too much money committed due to the way the contract structure for top draft picks works for that QB to not get a multi-year look as the starter, even if he isn't good. This is exactly what you saw with guys like Zach Wilson, the BYU bust that the Jets drafted #2 overall. He still ended up as the primary starter for what was essentially ~3 seasons, before the Jets pulled the plug. The same thing happened to the Jets with Sam Darnold who they drafted #3 overall: he was a failed starter for 3 seasons. You can't roll with these guys in the draft with those caliber of picks, and then determine that they are just backups and never play them. The financial commitment will put them onto the field until it is financially possible to move on.

So when you look at Byrum Brown and what it will take to sign him, its not: "I'm going to sign him for $3M and hope that he can beat out this less experienced Sophomore that I also kind of like", but: "I have decided that this is an elite starter, and hence I will pay him $3M". And again, this is all irrelevant because someone like Brown wont sign without very clear indication that he is the starter out of camp, so even if you wanted to pay him elite starter money and have him "compete for the job", its really not even feasible because that kid will just go sign elsewhere where they don't have that stipulation.

This is the reality of recruiting this level of starting QB from the Portal, especially guys like Brown who have only 1 year of eligibility left. If you don't want to commit yourself to them as the starter, then you simply should not recruit them. Simple as that. And this applies to all of these ELITE QB transfers. Not one of these guys is "competing". The Brendan Sorsby kid from Cincinatti is a Senior next season. There is NOT going to be any "QB competition" at Texas Tech or LSU or whoever signs him. Same thing with Sam Leavitt, Drew Mestemaker, etc, etc. If you want a "QB competition", then you need to exclude transfers like this and shop in a different category of QB.
Posted by Beatleaholic
Alabama
Member since Nov 2022
49 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:23 pm to
What do Freeze and Gus have in common ? Both are too stubborn to change QB’s when it’s not working. Not going to beat Jackson Arnold up too bad. He had poor coaching. Poor play calling and guys that just didn’t care about being a part of the program. When Derrick Nix got the keys to the offense we saw a massive improvement
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20621 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:24 pm to
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Everything I’ve heard he wanted to stay. But his agent said no.


If you don’t have the fortitude to tell your subordinate (your agent) what you’re going to do, then you probably don’t have the fortitude to work hard and be the best you can be either. Hopefully my son is in the situation in a couple years with baseball, and I’d never let an agent make him do something he doesn’t want to do.
Posted by BeehiveTiger
Damn Near Loachapoka, Alabama
Member since May 2020
631 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:26 pm to
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I wouldn’t say Duece is a bum and doesn’t want to compete. Everything I’ve heard he wanted to stay. But his agent said no.


I don’t think Knight is a bum either, but the post I was responding to indicated Brown was a bum. If Brown is a bum, Knight shouldn’t be playing football. I think if Knight wanted to be here, he would be here regardless of his agent.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4521 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:28 pm to
And the above logic applies across all Pro sports, by the way.

For example: your MLB team signs 3B Alex Bregman for 6 years, $150M.

Alex Bregman is going to play, and he is going to play a lot. There is no scenario where you go "gee, I'm going to sign Bregman for $150M, and we are going to take a long look in training camp because we have a rookie 3B who may actually be better". No, if that is the thought process then you obviously will not sign Bregman because it doesn't make sense to do so. There is no "I'm signing a player for $100M, and I'm hoping that he'll compete for a starting job".

The money at the NCAA football level is lower, but the principal/theory is the same. When you commit elite starter money to a player at any position, it is because you are sold on that player. You're not doing do so that you can get a good long look in training camp to see if they are actually any good.

Posted by Fearless and True
N Carolina
Member since Aug 2022
1686 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:28 pm to
So I guess I have to watch Jerry McGuire to understand why an agent can force his client into a choice.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108330 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:28 pm to
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same people will be crying about why didn’t they pay Deuce to be the backup



Why are you making these kind of statements? Who didn’t want Deuce to stay, who didn’t offer him to stay? What kind of stupidity is this you’re throwing on the board?
Posted by Beatleaholic
Alabama
Member since Nov 2022
49 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:30 pm to
These young men have no idea how things work. Look at Freddie Freeman with the Braves. Agent is handling things. Freddie wants to stay in the ATL. Finds out the Braves signed Matt Olsen and he is out of a job. Now it worked out for Freddie. And we didn’t lose anything by getting Matt Olson.
Posted by WeagleEagle
Folsom Prison
Member since Sep 2011
2539 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:36 pm to
Strikeouts vs clutch playoff play. Lol
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34538 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:53 pm to
I love Freddie. If he stayed he’d have a statue eventually

But Olson is playing great ball. Olson was at 6 WAR last season. Freddie: 3.5.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34954 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 1:59 pm to
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These young men have no idea how things work. Look at Freddie Freeman with the Braves. Agent is handling things. Freddie wants to stay in the ATL. Finds out the Braves signed Matt Olsen and he is out of a job. Now it worked out for Freddie. And we didn’t lose anything by getting Matt Olson.


So much wrong with this post.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20621 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:18 pm to
Ashton Daniels visiting FSU. Yikes
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17739 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:20 pm to
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have the same agent,


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guy is a complete snake.





When you say agent, I think the snake is implied.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17739 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:22 pm to
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I’ll hook you up but the premium price I can’t change. It’s 19.99 but I’ll send my cashapp just let me know when you’re ready


Don't listen to Corch. Shoot me a PM and I'll work you out a good deal.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 2:23 pm
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17340 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:43 pm to
I think it is a bad use of money to offer Deuce 7 figures.

Brown has earned the right to be paid well and guaranteed the starting spot. Deuce played Mercer and that is it.

I would rather spend backup money on the freshman QB from Mercer than on Deuce.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 2:44 pm
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20621 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
12635 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:50 pm to
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I would rather spend backup money on the freshman QB from Mercer than on Deuce.


This!! Wasn’t he a true freshman? He came into Jordan-Hare Stadium and carved up a DJD defense for one half before we figured things out.
Posted by AUFiend
Member since Nov 2022
235 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:52 pm to
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When you say agent, I think the snake is implied.


Not necessarily. I've seen it mentioned that some of these agents are very reasonable to work with and others either have no idea what they're doing or do know what they're doing but just beyond reasonable. Cam & Deuce's agent falls into the category of being very experienced but beyond reasonable. He wants the extra 20% commission on a new deal that he'll get on each player and doesn't actually care what Cam & Deuce wants.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 2:54 pm
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