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re: Per Our Favorite Insider, Nick Marshall is Out This Week
Posted on 10/10/13 at 9:21 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 10/10/13 at 9:21 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I gotcha. You disagree about JJs redshirt, not Wallace.
Yeah, Im fairly hard-lined about it.
I don't want to risk it for anything.
Sorry, I got shite news as I got to work and am not focusing. Too many stupid ppl around me...it is rubbing off.
Yeah, Im fairly hard-lined about it.
I don't want to risk it for anything.
Sorry, I got shite news as I got to work and am not focusing. Too many stupid ppl around me...it is rubbing off.
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Posted on 10/10/13 at 9:22 am to parkjas2001
We are good Park, sorry for the tough start to the day...
Posted on 10/10/13 at 9:42 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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There could be a reason why JJ should take the snaps. If NM's injury is worse than stated, or should that injury become worse as the season progresses.
That is my thinking as well. IF NM goes down, JJ will have to be the guy to step up. Why not get him his first snaps against a WCU instead of an SEC foe?
Nick isn't the biggest guy in the world. If he is going to run, like he did last game, there is a good chance he will miss some time later in the year.
I would hate to burn JJ's redshirt, if it isn't needed, but then again......... (we have a chance of getting to double digit wins, counting the bowl game)
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:02 am to MrAUTigers
If our OL is not good enough to protect Marshall in the pocket from W Carolina, we've got more to worry about than if our QB can go on Sat or not. I think they are, but it sounds like everyone thinks that Marshall is going to be running the ball this weekend no matter what if he plays. I think as long as he's not in serious pain, you stick him in there for a half and let him throw about 20 passes and protect his arse with the OL and run the ball with Mason, CAP and Grant.
It's a perfect time to have Marshall work on plays that don't involve the QB in the run game.
It's a perfect time to have Marshall work on plays that don't involve the QB in the run game.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:08 am to kage
my concern with that is getting his knee back to 100%... without his running ability, our offense becomes extremely limited. He got hurt with about 12 minutes to go in the 4th and we were only able score 3 points after that (which were basically gifted to us after a shanked punt and personal foul penalty).
I understand the need to for Marshall to develop his passing game, and Saturday's game is an excellent opportunity to do just that.... but if we're to beat any other SEC team on our schedule, we need marshall's legs to be at or near 100%, even if it means he sits against WCU.
I just hope this isn't a nagging injury and he's forced to wear a brace for the rest of the year... but I've got a feeling this is going to affect his play from here on out (hopefully not too much).
I understand the need to for Marshall to develop his passing game, and Saturday's game is an excellent opportunity to do just that.... but if we're to beat any other SEC team on our schedule, we need marshall's legs to be at or near 100%, even if it means he sits against WCU.
I just hope this isn't a nagging injury and he's forced to wear a brace for the rest of the year... but I've got a feeling this is going to affect his play from here on out (hopefully not too much).
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:12 am to lowspark12
IMO, if Nick Marshall doesn't have his running ability, Jeremy Johnson is a better option to go with. We could prep him for the future and let the two go at more in spring and during the summer. There's no reason to put Jonathan Wallace or Kiehl Frazier in just to save a redshirt. Just my point of view, though.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:18 am to TTsTowel
you might feel differently four years from now if we have a National Championship calibre defense and RS Senior QB Jeremy Johnson... 
it's all pure speculation... none of us know exactly how hurt marshall is or isn't, and we don't know exactly how good JJ has looked in practice.
it's all pure speculation... none of us know exactly how hurt marshall is or isn't, and we don't know exactly how good JJ has looked in practice.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:18 am to TTsTowel
If NM is out we need to play the next best qb. If that's JJ then play him. Let him get some meaningful reps. The odds of NM making it through SEC play with out getting hurt are slim.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:21 am to lowspark12
quote:Very possible. Unlikely, but still possible.
you might feel differently four years from now if we have a National Championship calibre defense and RS Senior QB Jeremy Johnson...
quote:Agreed.
it's all pure speculation... none of us know exactly how hurt marshall is or isn't, and we don't know exactly how good JJ has looked in practice.
However, since the quarterback race came down to Jeremy Johnson and Nick Marshall, I think it'd just be stupid to go with Jonathan Wallace if Nick Marshall can't go...all because of a redshirt. We're 5-1 at this point, we should still play our best players. And it would also help prepare Jeremy Johnson for the years ahead.
I'm hoping Nick Marshall is OK, but he didn't look good towards the end of the game. Damn shame, too. He had a break out game with rushing.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:26 am to lowspark12
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without his running ability, our offense becomes extremely limited.
Not against W Carolina. We should be able to run for 400 against them if we want to without Marshall ever leaving he pocket.
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He got hurt with about 12 minutes to go in the 4th and we were only able score 3 points after that (which were basically gifted to us after a shanked punt and personal foul penalty).
Malzahn went ultra conservative in the 4th quarter. Marshall threw 1 pass all quarter. The rest were runs and they stacked the box to stop that. The CAP fumble killed us. We had some momentum, and that run added to it. Yeah, we got the ball right back, but still, we could have really built on the start to that drive.
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we need marshall's legs to be at or near 100%, even if it means he sits against WCU.
I don't disagree with this, but my point is that we should be at the point where we can protect him for one half against essentially a Div II team, to throw about 15-20 passes, and then let Wallace play the second half.
This post was edited on 10/10/13 at 11:40 am
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:31 am to kage
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we should be at the point where we can protect him for one half against essentially a Div II team, to throw about 15-20 passes, and then let Wallace play the second half.
This seems like the perfect gameplan.
Heal knee and practice passing/progressions for Nick, mop up for Wallace, protect RS for JJ.
Victory bourbon!
Posted on 10/10/13 at 1:20 pm to parkjas2001
Gus just said on the radio in Atlanta that NM will practice today adn they will make the decision tonight after practice on whether or not he will play.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 1:35 pm to parkjas2001
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Gus just said on the radio in Atlanta that NM will practice today adn they will make the decision tonight after practice on whether or not he will play.
thx for the update and people are underestimating JJ's running ability.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 3:02 pm to parkjas2001
NM
This post was edited on 10/10/13 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 10/10/13 at 3:38 pm to parkjas2001
So you and kage are saying let's heal Marshall's knee but make him play this weekend? All it takes is one missed assignment and he's on the ground and out for the year..then we are way down shite creek. I don't care if it's WCU or the New England Patriots, if he's not ready to play don't play his arse.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 3:44 pm to Rig
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if he's not ready to play don't play his arse.
Well yeah. If the team doctors clear him, he should play.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 3:46 pm to parkjas2001
quote:Not necessarily. If he doesn't feel ready or isn't comfortable on that knee despite doctors clearing him, he should not.
Well yeah. If the team doctors clear him, he should play.
It's Western Carolina who has lost 25 straight SoCon games, 31 straight to FBS teams, and 25 straight on the road. They suck arse and playing Marshall for 1 half will not accomplish much of anything except maybe boosting his moral against one of the worst FCS teams in the history of college football.
This post was edited on 10/10/13 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 10/10/13 at 3:49 pm to Rig
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If he doesn't feel ready or isn't comfortable on that knee despite doctors clearing him, he should not.
True, Wallace could handle all of Saturday of NM didnt feel comfortable.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 3:50 pm to Rig
If NM will absolutely be 100% for the A&M game if he doesn't play this weekend, then I say let JW play.
If NM will be questionable or less than 100% for A&M, then put JJ in.
Someone asked in another thread would you burn JJ's redshirt if you thought it gave you a chance to win even one more game? I say yes. Right now assuming we win Arkansas and TN, which I feel good about, and JJ can give us a win over A&M, Georgia, or Bama and we look at a 9 win regular season then you absolutely do it.
If NM will be questionable or less than 100% for A&M, then put JJ in.
Someone asked in another thread would you burn JJ's redshirt if you thought it gave you a chance to win even one more game? I say yes. Right now assuming we win Arkansas and TN, which I feel good about, and JJ can give us a win over A&M, Georgia, or Bama and we look at a 9 win regular season then you absolutely do it.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 3:52 pm to atlau
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Right now assuming we win Arkansas and TN, which I feel good about, and JJ can give us a win over A&M, Georgia, or Bama and we look at a 9 win regular season then you absolutely do it.
That is the question though.
Do you really think an unproven true freshman can beat on of those three teams?
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