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Passing game: are most calls predetermined?
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:53 pm
I get that plays are designed to get a player open, but if not open most plays have a second and a check down.
It often looks like Bo forces it into coverage or bails when it’s not open.
I know the line is not the best in football history, and Bo is not a legend, but the coaches need to teach the counters and reads.
I also wonder IF Tank should have rested. He looked injured.
It often looks like Bo forces it into coverage or bails when it’s not open.
I know the line is not the best in football history, and Bo is not a legend, but the coaches need to teach the counters and reads.
I also wonder IF Tank should have rested. He looked injured.
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:57 pm to makersmark1
They have to be
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:00 pm to makersmark1
It’s been pretty obvious for a while that the passing game is designed for one read. Gus is so arrogant that he still thinks he can 2013 his way through a season.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:22 pm to tilco
I've always been convinced Gus dictates who gets the ball, when it's kept, when it's given etc
I don't think it's just a Bo thing
I don't think it's just a Bo thing
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:38 pm to makersmark1
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Passing game: are most calls predetermined?
Of course. They have been since 2009. Nothing has changed.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:45 pm to makersmark1
Some plays are predetermined based on the game plan. Some are up to the QB or late signs from the sideline (coaches reading the defense). The first handful each drive are, in some ways, scripted
It’s not that different from most college offenses in that regard. Our sets and options aren’t as elaborate. They’ve become more complicated under Morris though. I understand much less from a year ago
It’s not that different from most college offenses in that regard. Our sets and options aren’t as elaborate. They’ve become more complicated under Morris though. I understand much less from a year ago
Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:49 am to tilco
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It’s been pretty obvious for a while that the passing game is designed for one read. Gus is so arrogant that he still thinks he can 2013 his way through a season.
Good call. I’m convinced that Gus is so sure of his scheme, that he expects it to work every time, regardless of whether the defense knows what’s coming. If it fails, it’s because his players didn’t execute.
And yes, it is a one read scheme. Did you see how quickly the Alabama dbs reacted to the passing game? It’s like they knew what was coming. Certain formations and personnel groupings mean that this person gets the ball. A classic Gus tell for years. That’s why his offense doesn’t work like it should.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 7:40 am to Placekicker
I believe there is evidence to suggest Bo is reading progressions at times. What makes it difficult is any time a QB goes with his 1st read its hard to tell if it was predetermined or not. Many times the 1st read is the best option.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:40 am to Placekicker
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Did you see how quickly the Alabama dbs reacted to the passing game? It’s like they knew what was coming.
They did.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:43 pm to slacker130
Exactly what have you come to expect from a system that has every play called from the sideline? Exactly what do you expect when every audible is called from the same sideline?
An exact same system that sees Flash jet by a DB too slow to stay with him on his way to a 50 plus yard TD ....then never gets called again! (Tennessee) While he continues to be covered by the same slow DB?
We have a non receiver, coaching receivers. Someone who doesn't know about breaking routes or when to break them.
A non receiver that does not knowhow to coach a speed receiver how to fool then leave behind people who are as fast when they have a two step and angle lead .....Terry Beasley was taught how to leave DB's behind .... It wasn't what he brought from High School with him.
An exact same system that sees Flash jet by a DB too slow to stay with him on his way to a 50 plus yard TD ....then never gets called again! (Tennessee) While he continues to be covered by the same slow DB?
We have a non receiver, coaching receivers. Someone who doesn't know about breaking routes or when to break them.
A non receiver that does not knowhow to coach a speed receiver how to fool then leave behind people who are as fast when they have a two step and angle lead .....Terry Beasley was taught how to leave DB's behind .... It wasn't what he brought from High School with him.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:33 am to bluedragon
One read passes work well when you run the zone read to perfection and rack up 450 yards rushing every game.
Not so much when you have changed your offense and must rely on the pass.
Why Gus has gone away from our 2013-14 offense I will never understand.
It's not like other teams were stopping it.
Not so much when you have changed your offense and must rely on the pass.
Why Gus has gone away from our 2013-14 offense I will never understand.
It's not like other teams were stopping it.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 6:10 am to bird35
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It's not like other teams were stopping it.
. . . didn't the substitution rule do this? And once slowed down he was easily figured out.
eta: In other words: having a simple system allowed him to go at breakneck speed.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 6:38 am
Posted on 12/2/20 at 12:11 pm to awestruck
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didn't the substitution rule do this?
And once slowed down he was easily figured out.
eta: In other words: having a simple system allowed him to go at breakneck speed.
That's the way I remember it too. Plus coaches had time and film to study how to defend it better, so they got smarter, causing Gus' offense to sputter.
Hence, why he tried to incorporate a better passing scheme to go with it since 2015.
We've sputtered along since then, except in parts of 2017, and a little more last year...
Posted on 12/2/20 at 4:07 pm to AuSteeler
The "Hurry Up" Offense was nothing more than keeping your eleven on the field, then running the exact same play where you gained 9 previously. No magic to it ...just challenge the defense to "stop" you.
Ever wonder why the offense snapped as soon as they were set? No play to send in from the sideline ...offense already knew what they were going to run.
Substitution rule only applies when the Offense makes a change.
If you keep your eleven on the field ...the defense substitutes at their own risk.
Ever wonder why the offense snapped as soon as they were set? No play to send in from the sideline ...offense already knew what they were going to run.
Substitution rule only applies when the Offense makes a change.
If you keep your eleven on the field ...the defense substitutes at their own risk.
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